[turbanplanner]

No one uses the park as a race track. You don't understand cycling or racing if that's what you think. Some ride fast, because that is how road cyclists train. Thirty or forty kph is normal for fit roadies on long rides. But no one is racing.This type of language (race track, Tour de France wannabes, yellow jerseys, Spandex warriors) is loaded and calculated to create fear and elevate the feeling of risk, and has little to do with the reality in High Park. Have some people been startled by a fast cyclist? 100% Has anyone been hurt by one? Never, to my knowledge. I wonder, in fact how much time you spend in the park, based on biased and fact-challenged posts like this.

Sorry I'm using the colloquial definition of race track.

I think any measures need to be weighed against how much they deter active transportation. Harassing cyclists for going 25 kph in a 20 zone or rolling a stop sign doesn't make anyone materially safer, and making cycling less convenient leads to less active transportation use and associated negative health outcomes.

If you have any clocks that might actually kill you, you may want to get those looked at.

The 25 in a 20 isn't even the issue, numerous times I've either cycled or driven out of the grenadier cafe lot and despite the top of the hill having a stop sign and me (and others) having right of way people run the stop signs....

 

[Undead]

I don't know about High Park, but there are plenty of near misses along the waterfront. And I believe there was an incident in recent year near HBS where a fast cyclist collided with a pedestrian, breaking the later's nose. There's definitely a need for better courtesy toward pedestrians from the lycra crowd.

 

[afransen]

I don't know about High Park, but there are plenty of near misses along the waterfront. And I believe there was an incident in recent year near HBS where a fast cyclist collided with a pedestrian, breaking the later's nose. There's definitely a need for better courtesy toward pedestrians from the lycra crowd.

In my experience, the Lycra crowd usually rides in the vehicles lanes.

 

[evandyk]

I wonder, in fact how much time you spend in the park, based on biased and fact-challenged posts like this.

Wait until you see his posts about safety on the TTC!