[UntitledCyclist]

College bike lanes are completed and looking nice:

Unfortunately they are not quite "complete" despite the city claiming substantial completion in a recent email update.

Your video doesn't go east to Spadina, where the last block before the switch to curb-protection has no bike lanes or infrastructure of any kind. This is a narrow section, due to the streetcar loading platforms in the roadway, which likely prevents protected lanes from being installed. But it's still a downgrade from a few months ago when we had at least painted lanes and a green bike box eastbound at the College/Spadina intersection.

My queries to the non-responsive "Senior Public Consultation Coordinator" have gone unanswered, and no one seems to know whether those lanes are just delayed or not happening at all.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and having a busy, narrow lane with zero infra right in the middle of a new project is the definition of a weak link.

If anyone knows anything about this big oversight, please share!

 

[Toronto1834]

Some details on some of the Cycle Lane/Track upgrades, starting with University Avenue:

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Now for the Harbord/Hoskin Corridor:

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This one also comes with a render:

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More to come in next post.

With University needing resurfacing, was there no way to integrate/ future proof for University Park?

 

[Northern Light]

With University needing resurfacing, was there no way to integrate/ future proof for University Park?

Officially, University Park, south of College, is not yet a City project, north of College, we shall see.

Transportation Services, I think it would be fair to say, lacks enthusiasm for the project.

So, no, not really. * some bits have been, see below.

To be completely fair, if University Park is delivered over this stretch, just about everything will be rearranged.

I will note, however, some underground utilities that were moved have considered the possible future park in their placement.

 

[marcus_a_j]

Next upgrade package is one that hasn't yet been discussed here, and hasn't been decided on either:

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From the survey linked below:

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Both options improve on the status quo, but option 2 is markedly better. UT'ers take the survey and advocate; there will be some local opposition to removing 30 parking spots, so people in support of this will need to say so; most especially if you live/work nearby.

Here's your survey link:

- Jones Avenue Road Resurfacing: Road Safety Improvement Options

s.cotsurvey.chkmkt.com

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Thanks for sharing. Responded to the survey.

I used to cycle and drive on Jones quite often up until the pandemic. Since our office moved to Kingston Rd in Scarborough and moving from Jones/Danforth to Woodbine/Danforth, I rarely use Jones at all. But when I did cycle on Jones, I never found it to be too bad. Not great with potential doorings and poor road surface, but as Jones isn't as busy as some of the other main north-south roads between the Don and Woodbine, I never felt unsafe riding in the bike lanes in relation to vehicular traffic. Still, upgrades to cycle tracks are always welcome.

 

[UntitledCyclist]

Unfortunately they are not quite "complete" despite the city claiming substantial completion in a recent email update.

Your video doesn't go east to Spadina, where the last block before the switch to curb-protection has no bike lanes or infrastructure of any kind. This is a narrow section, due to the streetcar loading platforms in the roadway, which likely prevents protected lanes from being installed. But it's still a downgrade from a few months ago when we had at least painted lanes and a green bike box eastbound at the College/Spadina intersection.

My queries to the non-responsive "Senior Public Consultation Coordinator" have gone unanswered, and no one seems to know whether those lanes are just delayed or not happening at all.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and having a busy, narrow lane with zero infra right in the middle of a new project is the definition of a weak link.

If anyone knows anything about this big oversight, please share!

Update from the finally responsive consultation coordinator, Nathalie. Probably had to run this up the chain to get an approved reply:

Thank you for being so patient and bringing this matter to our attention regarding the section of the bike lane from Augusta Avenue to Spadina Avenue.

We can confirm that the section you mentioned is narrower in that specific stretch, accommodating the TTC stop. As a result, there is no planned new separation for the bike lane in that area.
The existing bike lane configuration will be maintained as previously established, similar to the Bathurst Street section you've noted.

Please be advised that due to the current winter weather conditions, the reapplication of pavement markings in that area has been scheduled to take place in spring 2024.

So, basically, they didn't get the lines done before winter. Odd as it's probably the easiest part of this whole project. And they could have mentioned this in their prior update, but somehow forgot. Oh well. To the spring!

 

[Dan416]

I think it’s quite heartening to see all the progress on bike lanes in Toronto in the past few years. Of course, we’re still behind Montreal but it seems to be getting taken more seriously with more proper separation from car traffic, which to me, as both a driver and an occasional recreational cyclist, is the most important thing. I dislike them being mixed, but even a narrow line on a road is better than nothing, and full separation is the benchmark we should be aiming for as much as possible and wherever feasible.

unfortunately Mississauga is still stuck on the painted line on a a road stage. But with our side roads, we have more space to work with in the future. But it’s a long process.

 

[afransen]

unfortunately Mississauga is still stuck on the painted line on a a road stage. But with our side roads, we have more space to work with in the future. But it’s a long process.

Hard disagree. Mississauga has a pretty extensive network of MUPs and off-street cycle paths. They have made really good progress expanding this network and adding cross-rides/bicycle signals in the past few years. Yes, there are some 'painted bicycle gutters' but they tend to be on more minor streets with lower traffic volumes. Still, lots of room for improvement.

 

[UntitledCyclist]

Hard disagree. Mississauga has a pretty extensive network of MUPs and off-street cycle paths. They have made really good progress expanding this network and adding cross-rides/bicycle signals in the past few years. Yes, there are some 'painted bicycle gutters' but they tend to be on more minor streets with lower traffic volumes. Still, lots of room for improvement.

The old MUPs are great, but are not the same as on-street protected lanes. They are basically wide sidewalks along 2 or 3 major east-west thoroughfares, and some patchier north-south ones. Writ large, cycling in Missisauga if you need to get anywhere that's not on those aforementioned MUPs, or along the waterfront is a scary stroad-filled mess.

 

[Northern Light]

Given the discussion above; what say the masses:

"Should all GTA cycle tracks be discussed in this thread, or should additional threads be set up for those in different suburban areas? "

In the mean time........for our friends 'out west'........... This is what Mississauga currently has underway according to its website:

 

[Dan416]

I don’t think there’s enough going on in Mississauga to justify its own thread

I like the little diagram of the cycle tracks:

 

[DSCToronto]

I asked Becky Katz today if/when the City will upgrade the Martin Goodman Trail from Polson Street to Unwin Street. There is the great new trail on west side of New Cherry south to Polson and then it is a bit of a mess. Crossing the Ship Channel will always be a squeeze and then one needs to cross to east side of Cherry, where trail is not in great shape. Ideally the trail would continue for can 200 meters on west side of Cherry between bridge and Unwin and the short block from Polson to bridge would be tidied up.

Her response, they will look at the section south of Polson and north of bridge for 2025. Too bad nothing in 2024 but ...

 

[UntitledCyclist]

I asked Becky Katz today if/when the City will upgrade the Martin Goodman Trail from Polson Street to Unwin Street. There is the great new trail on west side of New Cherry south to Polson and then it is a bit of a mess. Crossing the Ship Channel will always be a squeeze and then one needs to cross to east side of Cherry, where trail is not in great shape. Ideally the trail would continue for can 200 meters on west side of Cherry between bridge and Unwin and the short block from Polson to bridge would be tidied up.

Her response, they will look at the section south of Polson and north of bridge for 2025. Too bad nothing in 2024 but ...

In addition to this, the trail as such through the woods along the lake heading east towards the spit is rubbish. Root-break-through and general degradation has made it a bumpy ride. It's also always been too narrow and windy for safe biking, unless you really slow down through here. Needs a re-do, repaving and hopefully widening to improve passing and sight-lines. Would also love to see a stop sign for vehicles on Regatta Road, rather than expecting trail users yield.

 

[DSCToronto]

In addition to this, the trail as such through the woods along the lake heading east towards the spit is rubbish. Root-break-through and general degradation has made it a bumpy ride. It's also always been too narrow and windy for safe biking, unless you really slow down through here. Needs a re-do, repaving and hopefully widening to improve passing and sight-lines. Would also love to see a stop sign for vehicles on Regatta Road, rather than expecting trail users yield.

The MGT along the lake is not perfect and a few spots need to be resurfaced as tree roots are breaking through but it is not ever supposed to be a 401 for cyclists and pedestrians and, personally, I like its twists and turns. There currently ARE STOP signs for vehicles @ Regatta Road and in my experience most vehicles stop but it is obviously good to look before cycling across. If anything, the City should paint some lines on the street to reinforce the signage. (I have just sent in a request for lines to 311, we will see if any appear in summer!)

 

[evandyk]

The windy part between Cherry Beach and the little bridge is the best part of the whole downtown waterfront trail (that and the spit of course). And yes, regatta road is a four way stop, but the it's not very prominent in markings or signage.

 

[UntitledCyclist]

The MGT along the lake is not perfect and a few spots need to be resurfaced as tree roots are breaking through but it is not ever supposed to be a 401 for cyclists and pedestrians and, personally, I like its twists and turns. There currently ARE STOP signs for vehicles @ Regatta Road and in my experience most vehicles stop but it is obviously good to look before cycling across. If anything, the City should paint some lines on the street to reinforce the signage. (I have just sent in a request for lines to 311, we will see if any appear in summer!)

In my recent rides there the surface quality was terrible and needs to be redone. I don't know what a "401 for cyclists" means but you should be able to ride within the normal speed limits safely, without coming around corners and almost hitting other cyclists and pedestrians which has happened many times. I'm simply suggesting improvements. Nothing that would compromise your experience there in any way. If you're looking for narrow, windy trails there is lots of single track in the Don Valley. This is meant to be THE primary multi-use trail along the lake in Toronto, and I don't think it's accessible or up to snuff for that purpose right now.