Arvalan
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I should have moved to the Netherlands or Oslo when I was in the womb, it's such a clown filled place here.
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hawc
Senior Member
A great bike lane to see removed would be on the WEST SOUTHBOUND side of Bayview from Rosedale Valley Road up River to Gerrard.
Leave it one car lane north as it is now, but make it TWO car lanes south as soon as you pass Rosedale Valley Road, up River to Gerrard.
There are already bikes lanes in both directions on the EAST NORTHBOUND side and you don't need bike lanes on both sides.
Also the WEST SOUTHBOUND direction is 99% empty whereas the EAST NORTHBOUND is always in use.
And just to be clear the EAST NORTHBOUND side runs bikes north and south.
Bayview Extension becomes super congested going south nearing River and all the way up River specifically because of this single car lane. Cars waiting to turn left at Gerrard (even with an advanced green) end up backing up the entire road behind it. If we had one additional lane back (as we used to have) cars not waiting to turn left could just go around.
Not to mention that Southbound Truck traffic routinely rips up all the signs on River that have to get replaced literally weekly because that one lane is too tight.
Such an obvious fix. I may just need to email Doug.
Leave it one car lane north as it is now, but make it TWO car lanes south as soon as you pass Rosedale Valley Road, up River to Gerrard.
There are already bikes lanes in both directions on the EAST NORTHBOUND side and you don't need bike lanes on both sides.
Also the WEST SOUTHBOUND direction is 99% empty whereas the EAST NORTHBOUND is always in use.
And just to be clear the EAST NORTHBOUND side runs bikes north and south.
Bayview Extension becomes super congested going south nearing River and all the way up River specifically because of this single car lane. Cars waiting to turn left at Gerrard (even with an advanced green) end up backing up the entire road behind it. If we had one additional lane back (as we used to have) cars not waiting to turn left could just go around.
Not to mention that Southbound Truck traffic routinely rips up all the signs on River that have to get replaced literally weekly because that one lane is too tight.
Such an obvious fix. I may just need to email Doug.
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nfitz
Superstar
It's pretty clear from Doug's list, that those are roads he personally uses. The whole ridding of bike lanes seems to be very self-centred.
DSCToronto
Superstar
I agree that the west side of Bayview bike lane is unnecessary but it is also the sidewalk,. However, the bike lanes on the hill between River and Bayview are NOT bi-directional; the one on right side is ONLY southbound bikes, the one on the north side is northbound bikes PLUS PEDESTRIANS. I disagree with you that it is the narrowing of the vehicle space on the hill (and Bayview) that is the main cause of traffic back-ups. From my occasional observations, the problem is mainly, as you note, vehicles getting caught at Gerrard.
hawc
Senior Member
I stand corrected. You're right.
However, I guess I would ask then, do we really need a pedestrian sidewalk on the west side? I think not.
They can use the east bound side. Cyclists are supposed to respect that it's a mixed use trail same as the MG trail or any other trail. If you're too fast for all that ride on the road as I do.
The westbound side going up River could be eliminated even it means, heaven-forbid, cyclists riding with slow moving traffic for a few hundred meters before the bike lane resumes south of Gerrad.
However, I guess I would ask then, do we really need a pedestrian sidewalk on the west side? I think not.
They can use the east bound side. Cyclists are supposed to respect that it's a mixed use trail same as the MG trail or any other trail. If you're too fast for all that ride on the road as I do.
The westbound side going up River could be eliminated even it means, heaven-forbid, cyclists riding with slow moving traffic for a few hundred meters before the bike lane resumes south of Gerrad.
kotsy
Senior Member
Here's hoping bike lanes are next
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
You’ll be dead in a week.
FC_
New Member
While the federal government technically holds the power of disallowance to block provincial legislation, it’s unlikely the Liberals would use it here. They stand to gain little and would likely face backlash from federal Conservatives for perceived overreach.... oh wait
While the federal Liberals are unlikely to use disallowance, Ford has shown no such restraint, frequently employing tools like the notwithstanding clause, bypassing environmental assessment processes through new legislation, and issuing MZOs to bypass other levels of authority. The notwithstanding clause, used only three times in Ontario before 2019, has now been invoked twice under Ford, with additional threats to apply it further. Meanwhile, MZOs, issued sparingly in the past, have been used over 100 times since Ford took office in 2018. I wonder if the next federal government will consider whipping out the power of disallowance for the first time in 80 years.
UtakataNoAnnex
Superstar
Federal Liberals seem to have their own problems to ever want to wade into this mess. We've only got civil disobedience and perhaps a Mayor that will tell Doug where to stuff this as our only recourse here. /sigh
kotsy
Senior Member
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Just as we had to sacrifice Ontario Place concerns in order for Queens Park to take over the DVP and Gardiner, Mayor Chow will need to offer Ford something else to get him to stay away from Toronto’s bike lanes. How about we build the Rob Ford Ferris Wheel?
hawc
Senior Member
Bike lanes hold a special place in Chow and her late husband's hearts as they were often seen cycling to City Hall (and less often seen unloading their bikes from the back of a car just a few blocks away by my friend on multiple occasions.)
TheGrimSweeper
New Member
I'd 100% be behind that. Huge ferries wheel on the water, dedicated to his brother. He can even take all the credit. Just quietly change this stupid law.
afransen
Senior Member
If Chow were an effective communicator, she would hammer away on why Ford is moving ahead with bike lane removal, but taking no action on automated enforcement for things like blocking the box, which has huge and obvious impacts on congestion (moreso than bike lanes).
UtakataNoAnnex
Superstar
She did just that on the interview scrum linked on the other page proceeding...