This blatant inability to read the posts you are responding to has to stop. Tory does not need my support. I am just showing certain UT members that Tory is not as stupid as they pretend he is.
No, what you are doing is being an apologist for a subway that might not have the numbers and won't have the numbers if pushed east. That said, the subway is here until council votes otherwise. I have never said otherwise. Tory is pushing SmartTrack which might kill the subway, who's fault is that?
I have no problems with people who are against SSE based on rational arguments. I support SSE, but do not deny that the opponents of it has some points.
However, I take an issue when certain UT members pretend to see troubles in the SSE progress when such troubles do not exist.
Your misrepresentation of the media and the council's position will not cut it. They have varying opinions on this projects but they are not SSE haters.
No, you have a problem with people who want to change the plan (I really don't care at this point, like I said the subway is here.) Half of council voted against the subway. All the new media and most traditional media is against the subway. The issue with you and the others is the fact you fail yet again to recognize that SSE opposition is not just some echo chamber on UT. It's widespread. You're ignoring that to accuse me of misrepresentation because you're more interested in pandering to the masses. This is politicking.
You are not in the position to tell me what to support and what not to support.
I explicitly support one subway to STC, and think that two subways running there would be an overkill. Excuses you are trying to make here will not change that fact.
You don't get to pick and choose which low ridership subway is better. Both of them don't meet the standard. You're only one making excuses not debate, as if the argument is over because they voted. They also voted for the SELRT and look what happened.
This idea that one subway is good but not the other is completely bogus. Same idea for the LRT, the idea that SELRT was good and the LRT replacement for the SRT route wasn't is bogus. The subway gets voted out again, however, it will be because Tory pushed SmartTrack too hard. So to say I'm representing the facts when all I have said is that there is a chance the subway may be repealed or that it will stay and Sheppard East will come and I personally don't care at this point is unfair to put it mildly. Rainforest I am not attacking you personally, I am trying to show you that this is becoming a showdown between SmartTrack and the Subways. For some reason you don't believe Sheppard East has a chance simply because of money although we have no money really for the Bloor Danforth subway. You open the door to Bloor Danforth, Sheppard East will never truly be dead. You open the door the SmartTrack, both subways die.
I laughed at "SSE haters"
It's ridiculous. I have almost zero problem with the subway because that's the way the vote went. Same with Sheppard. All I have said is that once you give Scarborough one candy, they want the whole jar.
Tory wants heavy rail to Scarborough Centre? Where's this from?
I've missed that somehow in all this fantasy stuff.
SmartTrack has an STC stop, or will rather.
