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Votes are beginning.

Jennifer Pagliaro‏Verified account@jpags 10s11 seconds ago
Tory's motion to prevent delay of planning revised bus terminal passes 31-5

Matlows motion is up next:

Oliver Moore‏@moore_oliver 2m2 minutes ago
This time around, Matlow motion FAILS 17-27

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Called it. No alternatives outside of the LRT original 7 stop plan in the SRT corridor is what makes the subway all but a certainty.
 
Shiner motion to add design work for roughed-in SSE station at Lawrence East FAILS 21-23

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Shiner's motion should have carried, though IMO.

Nice to know that at least the Eglinton East and Scarborough subway will be bundled together so we aren't just getting a $4 billion tube to STC.
 
OK.......so as we approach forum page 800 (!) has there finally been a conclusive decision to proceed with a course of action??
 
WislaHD said:
Jennifer Pagliaro‏Verified account@jpags 1m1 minute ago
Shiner's motion to add just the design work but not additional cost estimate for possible protection of Lawrence station loses 21-23

edit: removed image. @salsa got to it first. :p

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Jennifer Pagliaro‏Verified account@jpags 3m3 minutes ago
Tory heckled for supporting Shiner's failed motion to rough-in Lawrence stop staff said could cost $300M after arguing he'd rein in costs
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That vote was a huge win for Ford. That should have passed. Council is too divided to even vote on the details. I could see them regretting this one come election time
 
cplchanb said:
OK.......so as we approach forum page 800 (!) has there finally been a conclusive decision to proceed with a course of action??
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No. We are going to have another debate as staff proceed with the design work most probably.

The only reason why we were having this debate today even is because the last staff update required city council to vote on a bus terminal. The bus terminal received barely any attention and the entire day was spent by councillors grandstanding on their takes on Scarborough transit, a failed attempt led by Cllr. Matlow to direct staff on an apples-to-apples comparison between subway and LRT, and in various other Scarborough Subway-related motions.

Overall, it was productive because we learned some new things from city staff. @salsa summed up what we learned here. We also passed a motion supposedly tying the SSE and the Crosstown East LRT projects together into one single project, how that actually pans out is open to interpretation.

Also the more expensive bus terminal plan was passed. So the official price tag of the SSE as it stands is at $3.56 billion now, I believe. If we consider SSE and ECLRT-East as a single project, then this project is closer to or surpassing $5 billion now.
 
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