archited
Senior Member
The paperwork for LEED application might take an hour to put in place; again, not that difficult to achieve.
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IanO
Superstar
Having submitted and successfully certified multiple projects myself, it ain't no hour.
archited
Senior Member
So you are LEED certified?
MCXavierL
Active Member
You're right. Plus the language says OR EnerGuide certification which is even simpler
IanO
Superstar
archited
Senior Member
So you are listed on the LEED AP Register (hint you have to renew your accreditation every two years), I ask because I didn't see your name. For which buildings did you provide a LEED application?
kcantor
Senior Member
whether the application takes an hour or eight is immaterial. the on-site tracking and subsequent submissions are where the actual costs are incurred and there is no “guarantee” even after the final submissions are made that the certification will be granted or at what level. i have seen estimates for consultant and contractor time consistently in the 1.5 - 2.5% of hard construction costs for certification and additional commissioning and that doesn’t include the construction cost of design elements or changes made to achieve that certification.
IanO
Superstar
Oh I'm probably not current, but am well versed and was the LEED (I will be here all week) submitter for:
Servus Credit Union HQ - Silver
Athabasca U - ARC - GOLD
Slave Lake Government Centre - Cert
Months of work.
Servus Credit Union HQ - Silver
Athabasca U - ARC - GOLD
Slave Lake Government Centre - Cert
Months of work.
northlands
Senior Member
I can appreciate what the City is trying to do here by wanting it to be actually developed and not used for speculation/etc, but the requirement to begin construction within one year of closing and complete construction within three years of closing are needlessly stringent and oddly punitive. Something like two years to start and five to complete would be a lot more reasonable and understanding to the dynamic business that is development but apparently not to bureaucrats with zero skin in the game.
Conditions like these on the sale of the land further delaying it being properly developed has a special flavour of irony to it also.
archited
Senior Member
Both you, 'O, and Ken are talking about the entire process -- the application is quite simple and that is what I started with. And the detail depends on what level of LEED you are applying for -- Platinum, Gold, Silver, or Certified. If the application for "Certified" takes more than an hour for a structure as might be proposed for this particular piece of land, then something is wrong with the manner in which the applicant is proceeding. After the application, monitoring the process is part and parcel of Architectural/Engineering construction documents, verified by construction procedures. You should know that Ian. And, if in the final analysis after the building is built it does not achieve LEED certification, what is the City going to do make the Construction team tear it down? -- that is a hypothetical -- so I go back to my original premise... applying for LEED certification is not difficult, and the people who put this condition in place are clearly not up to speed on the process.
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archited
Senior Member
And I agree with @northlands overview... the land is not going to be proposed for a 2,000 sq.ft. house which might fit into that time-frame. A multi-storey tower going through all the phases of engineering beginning with surveying and soils tests before much else is engaged, and then through design concept phases and presentation to the Design Review Board process is not going to get to a construction start in one year -- PlanCheck alone could take up half of that time-frame. Whoever put this ill-conceived document together does not understand any of the processes at any level for construction.
David A
Senior Member
Oh, isn't that the one where they tore down one of the older houses last year and now it is just another of a number of empty lots in this area?
The city seems quick to destroy neighbourhoods, but not good at fixing them.
kcantor
Senior Member
if you're not prepared to complete the entire process knowing what that's going to entail and what that's going to cost, why would you bother to submit an application in the first place?
archited
Senior Member
No one is going to submit an application under these constraints -- primarily the time constraints, LEED applications aside.
_urbanite
Senior Member
It wasn't the city that tore down that house...