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I know I'm being really nitpicky here, but the Rose & Crown was just a regular English-style pub similar to Sherlock Holmes whereas O'Byrne's is an Irish pub.
Anyway, I'm just glad O'Byrne's is retaining the old Rose & Crown logo above the entrance.
I dinned there often for lunch when it was the Rose and Crown and food was much superior to Sherlock's on RHW or O'Byrnes on Whyte.
 
Interim use is my guess.
If the owner can find a tenant to take enough space to cover the costs, perhaps interim can last quite a while. There doesn't seem to have been a great demand to build anything new here so far even with the building vacant.
 
There is a huge demand for spaces right now to take advantage of $10/day daycare.
Yes and it is close to a fairly dense residential area, so I could see something other than the suburban drive and drop off model actually working here despite the limited parking nearby.
 
Some changes to The Backyard

10004 - 103A AVENUE NW Plan 1423995 Blk 1 Lot 103 - Major Development Permit​

External ID
548030942-002
Job Type
Major Development Permit
Description
Other
Applicant
INSTREET DEVELOPERS INC.
Status
Intake Review
Class of Permit

Create Date
December 9, 2024
Approval Date

Location
10004 - 103A AVENUE NW Plan 1423995 Blk 1 Lot 103
Neighbourhood
DOWNTOWN
Updated:

10004 - 103A AVENUE NW Plan 1423995 Blk 1 Lot 103 - Major Development Permit​

External ID
548030942-002
Job Type
Major Development Permit
Description
To continue to operate a Mixed-Use development and construct exterior alterations (both food trucks along north edge Site, removal of an exit, reduction of total fenced area from 649m2 to 636m2, east Seacan extended from 6.1m to 7.0m), reference DP # 377875670-002, The Backyard.
Applicant
INSTREET DEVELOPERS INC.
Status
Intake Review
Class of Permit

Create Date
December 9, 2024
Approval Date

Location
10004 - 103A AVENUE NW Plan 1423995 Blk 1 Lot 103
Neighbourhood
DOWNTOWN
 
Different strokes for different folks. Some of us have intent to move projects forward...
I understand. In general I like the character of older buildings and in particular I knew someone who owned this one years ago, so happy to see it being used again.

I hope it is around for a while, but this is also a good location for something new, bigger and better some day.
 

Downtown investment​

Sohi offered thoughts on the Downtown Investment Plan, co-authored by organizations including BILD Edmonton Metro, the Downtown Revitalization Coalition, and the Edmonton Downtown Business Association. The plan calls for governments to invest $427 million in Edmonton’s downtown to improve the public realm, and for the city to offer financial incentives for office-to-residential conversions. But Sohi said it would take too long for these incentives to be paid back through property taxes for them to be viable.

“I don’t think it is fair to ask working families and hardworking small businesses to deeply subsidize office conversions, which are very, very expensive to do, where the return on investment will take almost 85 years to recover,” he said.

Sohi added that the city has invested close to $2 billion in downtown since 2015.
 

Downtown investment​

Sohi offered thoughts on the Downtown Investment Plan, co-authored by organizations including BILD Edmonton Metro, the Downtown Revitalization Coalition, and the Edmonton Downtown Business Association. The plan calls for governments to invest $427 million in Edmonton’s downtown to improve the public realm, and for the city to offer financial incentives for office-to-residential conversions. But Sohi said it would take too long for these incentives to be paid back through property taxes for them to be viable.

“I don’t think it is fair to ask working families and hardworking small businesses to deeply subsidize office conversions, which are very, very expensive to do, where the return on investment will take almost 85 years to recover,” he said.

Sohi added that the city has invested close to $2 billion in downtown since 2015.
I’d rather see per door incentives for new builds. We don’t have as bad of glut as Calgary for old offices and a mostly empty office building still pays more taxes and is more attractive than a gravel parking lot.
 
Freemasons Hall


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