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If one rides 1/101, they will see there is no need for an centre ROW beyond Mavis as far as I am concerned for the next 20+ years. If one drive Dundas in Halton, you will see development is not there for an ROW as well, including ridership.

Mississauga try running service to Oakville, but it fail badly.

ML has talked about one line from Kipling to Waterdown for years. As who will operated is open to a number of options from GO to a outside contractor or a mixture of one or more transit systems. One option would see Mississauga drivers do a change over in Oakville and Oakville drivers do the rest of the route. Its a long run to the point a driver may do 2 full round trips per shift.

I expect we will see the same colours as the LRV's to say this an ML line since has been ML plan since 2007 as well uniforms. No different than York Region VIVA system setup.
Drum. I am not getting on this bus if a) it starts out as HSR in Waterdown, becomes BT for a while, then OT, then Miway, until I can intersect with TTC 45 to get me into the Airport Industrial Area. So your information re ML's thoughts on this are welcomed. I would just assume a GO service. And then b) any service that pokes along at TTC speeds in traffic ALL THE WAY (I was imaging Howard Cosell). If that's the choice, then I may as well sit in an SUV and listen to Vivaldi's' Four Seasons for the next twenty years. But if you are going to give me transit that gets me to my destination faster then I can drive, with less stress, then I'm all in. So why not build it now, even if miles of it are painted separations only (excluding intersections and or stops) and run a service that will attract people from their cars to listen to Vivaldi on their ear buds while they enjoy a seamless transit using one service provider. It makes sense to me.
 
Drum. I am not getting on this bus if a) it starts out as HSR in Waterdown, becomes BT for a while, then OT, then Miway, until I can intersect with TTC 45 to get me into the Airport Industrial Area. So your information re ML's thoughts on this are welcomed. I would just assume a GO service. And then b) any service that pokes along at TTC speeds in traffic ALL THE WAY (I was imaging Howard Cosell). If that's the choice, then I may as well sit in an SUV and listen to Vivaldi's' Four Seasons for the next twenty years. But if you are going to give me transit that gets me to my destination faster then I can drive, with less stress, then I'm all in. So why not build it now, even if miles of it are painted separations only (excluding intersections and or stops) and run a service that will attract people from their cars to listen to Vivaldi on their ear buds while they enjoy a seamless transit using one service provider. It makes sense to me.
As I stated, it will be one bus running end to end, but could be operated by one or more systems. There would be no changing of buses if run by one or more existing transit systems, just divers.

It would be preferable that only one operator would run this line like it happens for an number of systems. It could be GO or X.

Kitchener ION is run by outside company as well VIVA. TTC is operating Line 5 and 6 for ML who owns the line.

End of the day, who would ride this long route end to end in the first place and how many when you have the Lakeshore next to it.??
 
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As I stated, it will be one bus running end to end, but could be operated by one or more systems. There would be no changing of buses if run by one or more existing transit systems, just divers.

It would be preferable that only one operator would run this line like it happens for an number of systems. It could be GO or X.

Kitchener ION is run by outside company as well VIVA. TTC is operating Line 5 and 6 for ML who owns the line.

End of the day, who would ride this long route end to end in the first place and how many when you have the Lakeshore next to it.??
Do the latest transit buses have a fuel gauge? Most transit buses I've seen have no fuel gauge. Transit buses have to be refuelled at the bus garage each night. Sometimes however, the buses do run out of fuel, requiring either a toll or an emergency refill to get to the garage.

Subway trains, light rail vehicles, streetcars, and trolley buses don't have that problem. Only coming in for cleaning and maintenance.

So who pays for the bus fuel?
 
Do the latest transit buses have a fuel gauge? Most transit buses I've seen have no fuel gauge. Transit buses have to be refuelled at the bus garage each night. Sometimes however, the buses do run out of fuel, requiring either a toll or an emergency refill to get to the garage.

Subway trains, light rail vehicles, streetcars, and trolley buses don't have that problem. Only coming in for cleaning and maintenance.

So who pays for the bus fuel?
The TTC buys fuel in bulk just like any other transit agency. They have large tanks at all of the garages. Metrolinks does that same with go buses, and go trains for the most part sometime though go trains end up being further away from a depot and they will bring a fuel truck to refit it at whatever location it's at.
 
The TTC buys fuel in bulk just like any other transit agency. They have large tanks at all of the garages. Metrolinks does that same with go buses, and go trains for the most part sometime though go trains end up being further away from a depot and they will bring a fuel truck to refit it at whatever location it's at.
Most/all transit systems have fuel tanks somewhere in their systems to fuel their fleet and buy in bulk. Most are underground from what I have seen so far

Transit systems have an idea when buses should be pull from service to be refilled before going back out and why you see a bus replacing a bus at terminals or end of a route. You will see a bus that has arrived at a terminal and depart empty after dropping riders off as the replacement bus is already sitting at the layover bay or at the platform for the route it will be operating on.

It is common to see 1 fuel truck at Aldershot to fuel up the locomotive whiles waiting to eastbound again. I have seen 2 trucks a few times in the past, but no idea these days if that still happen, since I am rarely out there in the first place. There was a plan from day one to have a fuel tank on site and fuel the locomotives like they do at Willowbrook, but looks like that plan has die.
 

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