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Avenuer said:
It’s barely 7 years old, how is that much work already required?
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A home owner should expect to re invest 2-5% of the homes value yearly in order to maintain the property.

You are being overly hyperbolic and un realistic if you think a few million every handful of years wont be required.
 
Yeggy said:
A home owner should expect to re invest 2-5% of the homes value yearly in order to maintain the property.

You are being overly hyperbolic and un realistic if you think a few million every handful of years wont be required.
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Every year seems wild, for a $400,000 property that is between $8,000 and $20,000, which is enough to replace a roof. That's much higher in my experience than what is needed, unless you are at the cycle in your house ownership where the roof, furnace, hot water tank, etc. need to be replaced.

The fact that there are structural and roof repairs already needed for the arena now seems a little wild, unless the workmanship was shoddy initially...
 
Avenuer said:
Every year seems wild, for a $400,000 property that is between $8,000 and $20,000, which is enough to replace a roof. That's much higher in my experience than what is needed, unless you are at the cycle in your house ownership where the roof, furnace, hot water tank, etc. need to be replaced.

The fact that there are structural and roof repairs already needed for the arena now seems a little wild, unless the workmanship was shoddy initially...
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Bob Vila says 1-4%

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Repair and replace

The construction costs of the building in todays dollars is apx 600 mill. so, at even 1% that is 6 mill a year. NOR is it a house… but is at least a frame for the argument.

I don't know why yer gagging so much, everyone knows a home is a money pit.
 
Avenuer said:
Every year seems wild, for a $400,000 property that is between $8,000 and $20,000, which is enough to replace a roof. That's much higher in my experience than what is needed, unless you are at the cycle in your house ownership where the roof, furnace, hot water tank, etc. need to be replaced.

The fact that there are structural and roof repairs already needed for the arena now seems a little wild, unless the workmanship was shoddy initially...
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I'm sure there were some deficiencies in the initial build. This is common for major projects.
 
It was also built expeditiously on an extremely firm deadline. They were throwing exterior paneling on <6 months before puck drop.
 
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Stadiums ranked the worst for dirty reviews:
  1. Canadian Tire Centre, Ottawa — Ottawa Senators (1.13%)
  2. Place Bell, Laval — Laval Rockets (1.10%)
  3. Scotiabank Saddledome, Calgary — Calgary Flames, Hitmen, Roughnecks, and Wranglers (1.09%)
  4. SaskTel Centre, Saskatoon — Saskatoon Blades, Saskatchewan Rush and Rattlers (0.95%)
  5. Olympic Stadium, Montreal (0.92%)
  6. Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton — Edmonton Elks (0.81%)
  7. FirstOntario Centre, Toronto — Toronto Rock (0.79%)
  8. Scotiabank Centre, Halifax — Halifax Mooseheads and Thunderbirds (0.75%)
  9. Allan A. Lamport Stadium, Toronto — Toronto Wolfpack (0.70%)
  10. Croix-Bleue Medavie Stadium, Moncton — Moncton Aigles Bleus (0.68%)
  11. Rogers Place, Edmonton — Edmonton Oilers, Oil Kings (0.66%)
  12. Percival Molson Stadium, Montreal — Montreal Alouettes (0.66%)
  13. Tim Hortons Field, Hamilton — Hamilton Tiger-Cats, Hurricanes, and Forge FC (0.62%)
  14. Pacific Coliseum, Vancouver (0.60%)
  15. Mosaic Stadium, Regina — Saskatchewan Roughriders, Regina Rams, Thunder, Riot (0.55%)
  16. IGA Stadium, Montreal (0.52%)
  17. Videotron Centre, Quebec City — Quebec Ramparts (0.50%)
  18. Sobeys Stadium, Toronto (0.49%)
  19. Bell Centre, Montreal — Montreal Canadiens (0.49%)
  20. Coca-Cola Coliseum, Toronto — Toronto Marlies (0.49%)
  21. Princes Auto Stadium, Winnipeg — Winnipeg Blue Bombers, Rilfes, and Valour FC (0.45%)
  22. TD Place, Ottawa — Ottawa Redblacks, Blackjacks, Gee-Gees, 67s, PWHL Ottawa, and Atlético Ottawa (0.42%)
  23. Thunderbird Stadium, Vancouver — UBS Thunderbirds (0.42%)
  24. BC Place, Vancouver — Vancouver Whitecaps and BC Lions (0.41%)
  25. GMC Stadium, Calgary — (0.38%)
  26. Rogers Centre, Toronto — Toronto Blue Jays (0.37%)
  27. Saputo Stadium, Montreal — CF Montreal (0.37%)
  28. Rogers Arena, Vancouver — Vancouver Canucks and Warriors (0.35%)
  29. Canada Life Centre, Winnipeg — Winnipeg Jets and Manitoba Moose (0.33%)
  30. Scotiabank Arena, Toronto — Toronto Maple Leafs and Raptors (0.32%)
  31. Budweiser Gardens, London — London Knights and Lightning (0.27%)
  32. Telus Stadium, Quebec City — Laval Rouge et Or (0.24%)
  33. BMO Field, Toronto — Toronto FC and Argonauts (0.23%)
  34. Ottawa Stadium — Ottawa Titans (0.22%)
McMahon Stadium — host of the Calgary Stampeders and University of Calgary Dinos — did not make the list due to insufficient data.

The search looked into Canadian venues with a seating capacity of 10,000 or more.
 
Deficiencies or design oversights occur on every project and are typically resolved post-occupancy without much issue, however, Rogers Place had significant HVAC issues, had to add a humidification system, new fans and likely other elements of that system.
 
IanO said:
Deficiencies or design oversights occur on every project and are typically resolved post-occupancy without much issue, however, Rogers Place had significant HVAC issues, had to add a humidification system, new fans and likely other elements of that system.
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There were some issues with the sanitary system right after it opened. I recall some of our group going in to determine the problem. I was consulted on that portion. And do remember the Roof exhaust fans blowing over in a super high wind. We watched that from our office. The Mechanical was designed out of country even though there was local support. They missed a lot of climate issues.
 
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