RedRocket191,
Something like this actually exists at the Extreme Fitness Bay/Bloor location.
RedRocket191,
Something like this actually exists at the Extreme Fitness Bay/Bloor location.
^ You will have to give me a movie since those escalators could be going backwards![]()
RedRocket191,
Something like this actually exists at the Extreme Fitness Bay/Bloor location.
I love how in this report they point to Amsterdam, Stockholm, Montpellier and Strasbourg as examples ... having myself spent some time in MontP and Stras, How can they compare T.O., the 4th largest metro arean in N.America to towns that are smaller in population than London, Ontario?
Until you have been to the Eglinton West corridor, you can't imagine how busy it is. How come ridership levels warrented the beginning of construction of a subway in 1995 but now it doesn't?
People: LRT is not the Jesus Christ of Public Transportation.
It works only within the grand scale of transit:
Minibus --> Bus --> Streetcar --> LRT (grade separated) --> Metro --> Commuter rail (REX) --> Regional Rail (GO) --> High speed rail (VIA) --> Airplane
"As Canada is a huge and expansive country, a national rail system could never work other than a tourist train - Toronto to Winnipeg is almost 1 day away and there is really nothing in between"
So the time it takes to travel 5k on Minibus = 10k on Bus = 15k on Streetcar = etc.
The back bone of the network in a city of 2.5 million cannot be LRT (which will be no more than a souped-up streetcar, considering the ttc can't even get signal priority for Spadina and Queen, 2 line that are almost a real LRT)
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Until you have been to the Eglinton West corridor, you can't imagine how busy it is. How come ridership levels warrented the beginning of construction of a subway in 1995 but now it doesn't?
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Ridership levels on eglinton never did justity starting a subway, nor do future projections justify building one now. It was just a political pet project the first time that had nothing to do with serving transit riders.
The eglinton west subway was originally planned to be build as a busway, until politics got involved
Metrolinx aims for consensus with TTC
JENNIFER LEWINGTON
From Friday's Globe and Mail
September 5, 2008 at 3:52 AM EDT
Keen to play down a brewing fight with the city, the head of the province's new regional transportation agency said yesterday he is "still optimistic" about reaching a consensus on forecasts of future transit ridership on Eglinton Avenue.
"I concede we don't have perfect alignment but I am optimistic it is something that we can work towards with the TTC [Toronto Transit Commission]," said Metrolinx chairman Rob MacIsaac.
Time is of the essence to settle the fight, with Metrolinx set to release a draft transportation plan for the next 25 years - worth $55-billion - by the end of this month.
According to an unreleased draft made public this week, the agency raises the possibility of a subway or an underground version of the Scarborough RT line along Eglinton.
But these options assume ridership levels twice that of the 52.8 million projection by 2021 made by the TTC for a new light-rail line along Eglinton. TTC chairman Adam Giambrone, one of four Toronto representatives on the Metrolinx board, said that even if Metrolinx's ridership forecasts were accurate, they would still be too low to justify a subway or an intermediate transit technology to carry more riders than the TTC's light-rail transit.
Mr. Giambrone said the TTC's forecasts of future demand are based on the city's Official Plan and the province's Transportation for Tomorrow Survey.
But these options assume ridership levels twice that of the 52.8 million projection by 2021 made by the TTC for a new light-rail line along Eglinton. TTC chairman Adam Giambrone, one of four Toronto representatives on the Metrolinx board, said that even if Metrolinx's ridership forecasts were accurate, they would still be too low to justify a subway or an intermediate transit technology to carry more riders than the TTC's light-rail transit.
So according to Giambrone, 105.6 million riders is too low for a subway??? What the hell is this guy smoking. That is a equivalent of well over 300k riders per weekday... close to the 400k of the Bloor-Danforth line. Does this mean we should convert the Bloor-Danforth line to LRT as well? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they did at this point.