smuncky
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For every 10-minute service ... maybe. For every 5-minute service? You need 2 dedicated tracks.I forsee upgraded signalling systems to squeeze in Smart Track on existing trackage.
For every 10-minute service ... maybe. For every 5-minute service? You need 2 dedicated tracks.
With the reported demand for every 5-minute service, they might have to ultimately run every 3-minute service.
That pretty much ends SmartTrack as anything other than a 15-minute RER service, with 4 tracks in much of the corridor. You'd need 2 more for more frequent SmartTrack service. You might have been able to squeeze 5 in, but not 6.
That leaves you with only 2 tracks for the VIA/Lakeshore East services - yet today you already need 3 tracks for that services east of Scarborough Junction, let alone once RER is complete! And that leaves nothing for the Stouffville non SmartTrack trains.Unless...you run a 5-minute stoppoing RER on two of the four tracks, routing it towards Agincourt, and an express RER that only stops east of Scarboro on LSE on a 15-minute headway on the other two, intermingled with VIA. You could give the stopping RER a fancy brand name. Like, say, Something-ending-in-Track.l
That leaves you with only 2 tracks for the VIA/Lakeshore East services - yet today you already need 3 tracks for that services east of Scarborough Junction, let alone once RER is complete! And that leaves nothing for the Stouffville non SmartTrack trains.
It's not the express trains that are the issue, but the 15-minute Lakeshore East service. Might be able to skip Scarborough, but there's a lot of traffic to and from Danforth, with people changing there to the subway.True, if the RER express was to stop west of Scarboro there would be a problem. But VIA can coexist with express RER on 2 tracks Scarboro-Union provided RER doesn't stop.
you mad? There ain't NOOOOBOODDDYYY transferring there. Its all local use. The GO fare integration program got something like 30 purchasers.It's not the express trains that are the issue, but the 15-minute Lakeshore East service. Might be able to skip Scarborough, but there's a lot of traffic to and from Danforth, with people changing there to the subway.
This just isn't true. Everytime I'm boarding there, heading into Union, I see people on the eastbound platform, heading in the Oshawa direction (that train leaves 4 minutes before the westbound, typically).you mad? There ain't NOOOOBOODDDYYY transferring there. Its all local use. The GO fare integration program got something like 30 purchasers.
True, if the RER express was to stop west of Scarboro there would be a problem. But VIA can coexist with express RER on 2 tracks Scarboro-Union provided RER doesn't stop.
I was thinking that RER-LSE trains would run express Union-Scarboro, duck onto their own tracks east of Scarboro (there is an EA under way for a 3rd track east of Guildwood, why not go for 4 Scarboro-Durham Jct) and begin making stops east of there. You could have RER-LSE make the stops closer in also, in which case they have to get out of VIA's way....but it makes more sense to have the Agincourt trains make all stops so that it's a true transit-flavoured RER. LSE customers won't mind skipping stops between Union and Eglinton.