ShonTron
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It will replace Etobicoke North.
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It will replace Etobicoke North.
robmausser
Senior Member
Will be a lot more useful once the Finch LRT is extended to the airport through this as well. Currently the station is kind of in the middle of nowhere. They will need shuttles to Woodbine
robmausser
Senior Member
Even if it didnt, we need to stop thinking "big hulking bi level go trains" when we look at station spacings. Get the past/present out of your head.
These will be serviced by quick, nimble EMU trains. We are going to remove stations due to them being "too close" in Toronto with our blinders-on "the past is the future" mentality, and then only then realise we messed up and need to rebuild more stations, the very stations we ripped out.
steveintoronto
Superstar
Conditions apply! There will be costs associated with the track work, signalling, etc, but the gist of "no cost" applies as per the building.
EN to be closed.
This is more a point of discussion than the station itself, which of course replaces the Et North stop. So a net neutral in terms of stops per GO. But if UPX as is won't be stopping, a shuttle using the same tracks should be considered. It can operate in between the present 15 min headway for UPX. It would be absurd to not provide that connection, as Woodbine is also touted to be a GO and local bus hub too.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
ShonTron
Moderator
No need to be angry with me!
The Etobicoke North Station needs to move because of the space required for the fourth track, especially under Highway 401. Woodbine offers improved transit connections to GO buses from Woodbridge and Bolton via Highway 27, as well as TTC Route 927 (connection to Kipling Station and Humber College) and possibly MiWay and YRT too. It's also along the path of a potential Finch LRT extension.
Though I definitely agree that model of GO lumbering 12-car diesel trains isn't what I want to see, GO hasn't yet ordered anything else, and electrification is still a long way away. If UP Express stopped here too, it would benefit connections to westbound trains as well.
crs1026
Superstar
The big lumbering landbarges will always be around....especially at peak. Hopefully more of them are expresses that don't need to stop at Woodbine because they are full of people making regional length trips. Four tracks can't happen soon enough.
The multi-stop EMU's will be a nice addition, all the same.
- Paul
The multi-stop EMU's will be a nice addition, all the same.
- Paul
Jonny5
Senior Member
LOL. 4,500 jobs 'created' to build this station. The dingbat PR flacks don't even care to try and hide the lunacy anymore.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
This number refers to the amount of jobs the station will support at the new Woodbine Casino development
crs1026
Superstar
The question I have about the new business-focussed station strategy is - surely there is a core set of standards and specifications that ML intends to apply to create a uniform, minimum profile for all stations.
What if, (slightly ridiculous example, perhaps) ML says "the station must have video screen information and announcement panels as well as a PA system that is connected to the GO Control Center" and the developer says "Naw, too expensive. Just post a paper copy of the timetable on an old fashioned tackboard" ? Who prevails?
This may sound trivial today.....but.... there was a time that nobody thought GO stations needed elevators to reach the platforms. I'm sure that in 5-10 years there will be some new requirement (replacing 5G internet with 25G, or whatever future technology emerges) that we don't even know of today. Or building codes change, or electrical safety standards, or ML's wayfinding and signage standards, or platform height, or whatever.
The contract better make these things possible, and specify who pays.
- Paul
What if, (slightly ridiculous example, perhaps) ML says "the station must have video screen information and announcement panels as well as a PA system that is connected to the GO Control Center" and the developer says "Naw, too expensive. Just post a paper copy of the timetable on an old fashioned tackboard" ? Who prevails?
This may sound trivial today.....but.... there was a time that nobody thought GO stations needed elevators to reach the platforms. I'm sure that in 5-10 years there will be some new requirement (replacing 5G internet with 25G, or whatever future technology emerges) that we don't even know of today. Or building codes change, or electrical safety standards, or ML's wayfinding and signage standards, or platform height, or whatever.
The contract better make these things possible, and specify who pays.
- Paul
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Jonny5
Senior Member
I know about that development, but the flacks didn't say it that way, and the Canadian Press published what they wrote, and the media simply cut//paste it as fact.
In the PR release they don't talk about that development at all. They simply call the station "the project," then say "the project will create 4,500 jobs".
hw621
Senior Member
Won't do any of that unless fairs become more affordable
Northern Light
Superstar
Am I the only one who looks at this and see a space ship with a ramp coming down similar to Close Encounters?
Then having made the observation it appears to be wood had the bemused thought that timber construction is really taking off now that were applying it to space ships!
Then wondered if this was the mother ship that has come to take the Ford's home?
Sorry.......in a strange mood, LOL
DonValleyRainbow
Senior Member
I can see the case for this not being a UPX stop considering that the Finch West LRT would be extended to the airport. The LRT serves the purpose, therefore no one would ride it, and it would be a time cost to everyone else. After all, that plus adding a stop at Mount Dennis would make this far from an "express" train.
cplchanb
Senior Member
the roof just looks bloated and way too big. Why are they trying to design gigantic mausoleums like 407, bloomington and now this for stops that will have few riderships anyways. I would rather have this on a major terminal where the ridership will justify a larger structure. No wonder infrastructure is so expensive these days. We let utopian architects and designers go mad with idealistic and overly grandeur designs at our expense.