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John Bisan said:

Metrolinx - Abstract - RQQ-2018-CINF-281 - Rqq-2018-cinf-281 :technical Advisory Services For Oncorr Structures Rfp

www.metrolinx.merx.com www.metrolinx.merx.com
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The scope of services shall include the following three stages, more particularly described in the Request Document:

  • Stage One: Environmental Assessment and Preliminary Design;
  • Stage Two: Development of Reference Concept Design (“RCD”) and Preparation of Project Agreement (“PA”) documents, including Project Specific Output Specifications (“PSOS”); and
  • Stage Three: Assistance with Procurement during in-market period for the OnCorr RFP

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I thought the RFP was supposed to be awarded this year. Looks like EA's and a bunch of other studies are required first. Consultants are going to get paid $$$
 
^I wondered that also. Well, here's a quick listing of EAs that are complete. I may put these in a spreadsheet somewhere.

Stouffville - Lincolnville Station March 2018
LSE - Guildwood to Pickering November 2016
Don to Scarborough - November 2017
LSW - Burloak Grade Separation March 2018
Barrie - Davenport Diamond May 2016
Double tracking to Barrie October 2017
Network - Electrification December 2017
Smarttrack - Six stations in GTA August 2018
Downtown Relief Line - September 2018
Scarborough Subway Extension - September 2017
Addendum to Eglinton Crosstown (due to change in western terminus to Mt Dennis) - January 2014
USRC East Corridor Improvements, October 2018
Addendum to Bowmanville GO EA - April 2018

- Paul
 
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^ And for the Kitchener Line, the EA or approval is done from Union to the airport spur. The Electrification EA is done for the network and approved (for the Kitchener Line it's the airport spur to Bramalea, correct?
 
Allandale25 said:
^ And for the Kitchener Line, the EA or approval is done from Union to the airport spur. The Electrification EA is done for the network and approved (for the Kitchener Line it's the airport spur to Bramalea, correct?
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I'm having trouble finding the actual report on line, but this presentation indicates that the Georgetown South EA went all the way west to Kitchener, and included the last set of enhancements to the Halton Sub.

Edit - found it here

The UPE EA was done in advance of the general electrification EA, supporting report here. The full network EA looked at the Pearson spur to Bramalea portion, correct.

- Paul
 
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After rereading a couple of times, this presentation from 2010 is a really interesting document that provides a little balance to some of our gripes about GO Expansion. It speaks to the very considerable investment in GO over the past decade. It's interesting to see what got done, and what didn't.

It's interesting to see how Bloomington station ended up far more grandiose than originally conceived. And we've been waiting for Track 5 at Exhibition for a long time. Progress on Niagara is a joke. But, in spite of that, we're in a whole different place than in 2010.

- Paul
 
$30 billion? Private enterprise? With the government pitching in $5 billion and leveraging the CIB with a five to one ratio. Sounds like they're considering through running RER in tunnel.
 
hw621 said:
Why is this in the GO construction thread?
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Presumably because if Metrolinx is involved, "it's not just going to be a downtown relief line, and It's travelling to other parts ..." that it sounds like they might be resurrecting their old bizarre DRL concepts that completely ignored the north, and were all about moving GO trains from the rail corridor either under Queen or under Union station.

(which might well have their own merit, but won't provide much service to those who'd be riding the DRL - north of Gerrard at least).
 
nfitz said:
Presumably because if Metrolinx is involved, "it's not just going to be a downtown relief line, and It's travelling to other parts ..." that it sounds like they might be resurrecting their old bizarre DRL concepts that completely ignored the north, and were all about moving GO trains from the rail corridor either under Queen or under Union station.

(which might well have their own merit, but won't provide much service to those who'd be riding the DRL - north of Gerrard at least).
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SmartTrack comes to mind.
 
If it's cantenary RER under Queen then it's an excellent idea.

As RER becomes a true back bone of the system, running it thru the core makes a lot of sense relieving inevitable overcrowding at Union, offer a safe alternative to downtown if there is a problem at Union, and eventually allows for a catenary DRL going north to Eglinton and beyond using the current RH rail corridor saving billions and years of construction.

As far as not having the DRL right to Bloor/Pape right away that's not really an issue . The DRL to Pape is simply a Y&B bypass but won't make much time difference for those north of Bloor. For those coming from Eglinton, the buses could easily be exended to serve Gerrard station giving them 2 options to get downtown. Also RER lines coming in from the East at TTC fares and far higher frequencies will help take a lot of the traffic off the Danforth line BEFORE Pape.

Catenary subways are subway 101 and there is not a supplier in the world that doesn't offer 3rd rail that also doesn't produce catenary subways. Most of the Tokyo, Barcelona, and Hong Kong systems run on catenary as well as most large RER systems throughout the world. By getting catenary there is a hope that the Scar subway will instead be a spur/split line to STC saving billions on a needless underground subway extension.
 
[QUOTE="ssiguy2, post: 1433887, member: 6833"As far as not having the DRL right to Bloor/Pape right away that's not really an issue . The DRL to Pape is simply a Y&B bypass but won't make much time difference for those north of Bloor.[/QUOTE]Then you need another completely different project to address the capacity issues on Yonge.

I'm not saying such a Metrolinx project isn't worthy in it''s own right. But simply killing the DRL and replacing it with a project relating to the existing GO lines south of Eglinton isn't sufficient ... though yes, there maybe a way of utilizing existing alignments north of Wynford.
 
At the end of the day thou, it really doesn't matter what Toronto thinks. All these lines are GO projects funded 100% by the province, using rail corridors, and trains all owned by the province. They can call it GO, RER, ST, Metrolinx or any other name but the bottom line is that all the GO expansion is run by QP because it's funded by QP.

Although Toronto is getting all these massive GO/RER investments paid for by QP and not having to fork over a nickel, it doesn't change the fact that NOTHING in this world is free. As with all matter, with rights come responsibilities and due to Toronto not taking responsibility for any of the costs of the GO/RER expansions they have simultaneously forfeited their to have any say in how it is developed. The reality is that Toronto has no more right to be telling QP what to do with their own rail assets than it does telling Londoners what kind of new rapid transit system they should be building.
 
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