superelevation
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Paint does not work in the cold?
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EastYorkTTCFan
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They said on the Metrolinx podcast that they don't do it because of required ultrasonic testing of the rails from the federal transit ministry, but there could be other factors too. For example environmental concerns with the paint.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Councillor Fletcher is trying to get the Don Valley Layover relocated.
nfitz
Superstar
Good. It's an atrocious location for such a facility.
Allandale25
Senior Member
^ the options are extremely limited. Getting more cars off the road and having more people use the Milton Line would be beneficial for GHG reductions.
There are two sites within the Don Valley that the City owns that could be naturalized as a further mitigation measure.
There are two sites within the Don Valley that the City owns that could be naturalized as a further mitigation measure.
kamira51
Active Member
What are the other possible locations?
reaperexpress
Senior Member
An abandoned rail line near Union? Sounds like a jackpot to me...
nfitz
Superstar
For just 2 trainsets (or has it now bloated to 3). Lakeshore East width is good for 6 tracks; but with 2 lost from the Don to Pape, for the Ontario Line, park some trainsets between Pape and Coxwell, along new track there. Or east of Danforth GO, where there's not any environmental concerns.
For just parking a train or two perhaps. But the amount of other infrastructure that's too be built in an environmentally sensitive area - which seems to keep increasing - is the issue. It also makes future use of that track (which hasn't been legally abandoned) very difficult.
Also problematic was the lack of a process about the selection of this site. The first time anyone heard that such a proposal for additional storage was on the table, was in a public meeting about the future additional city GO stations, and this plan just appeared there out of nowhere - completely skipping the site selection phase.
The lack of transparency and public communication at Metrolinx is stunning.
Allandale25
Senior Member
It's not just parking. I think the Metrolinx material said some cleaning and waste disposal.
USRC East on the southerly side won't work because it would involve too many crossover movements that would interfere with the LSE and Stouffville service. Paper/Coxwell/Danforth is too far and again, would interfere with revenue service runs. It's a lot more complicated than looking at the map and saying, hey put the trains there.
Update: I believe the Metrolinx material mentions other constraints on the USRC East southerly side. It may mention the additional tracks 7 and 8 being installed and the hydro transmission line.
USRC East on the southerly side won't work because it would involve too many crossover movements that would interfere with the LSE and Stouffville service. Paper/Coxwell/Danforth is too far and again, would interfere with revenue service runs. It's a lot more complicated than looking at the map and saying, hey put the trains there.
Update: I believe the Metrolinx material mentions other constraints on the USRC East southerly side. It may mention the additional tracks 7 and 8 being installed and the hydro transmission line.
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MrGoose
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Oh man won’t someone please protect this sensitive part of the Don Valley LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THE DVP.
If you can’t build this kind of light train parking and cleaning facility right next to a highway, there is nowhere else you could build it.
If you can’t build this kind of light train parking and cleaning facility right next to a highway, there is nowhere else you could build it.
smallspy
Senior Member
While I agree with you that the "environmentally sensitive" part has been very seriously overplayed.....
Metrolinx has a far better site quite literally less than 2 miles further up the very same track.
Dan
Allandale25
Senior Member
^ The former CP yard at Leaside?
Northern Light
Superstar
Definitely what he's meaning.
My understanding was Mx didn't want to spend on the rehab/reconstruction of the 1/2 mile bridge, and thus discounted this option, which I think is shortsighted.
Not a problem unique to Mx.
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Here's a shot of the CP Mainline at Bartlett in the west end...........a corridor capable of and that used to support 4 tracks at this location........today there are 2.........but look at where they installed the crossing signals.....
That's right...........directly in the path of restoring the additional tracks...........sigh....
Allandale25
Senior Member
^ I would have to assume that in addition to any work required for the bridge they'd also have to lease the land from CP and get an agreement. So the cost/time would also factor in.
nfitz
Superstar
So two wrongs make a right?
How does this justify the lack of consultation on site selection - and other aspects of Metrolinx's incompetence?