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because it's not going to happen because the major transit agencies all said nope we aren't going to waste money to change all the stops and stations to add something that isn't needed at all. Metrolinx had a wayfinding expert who created a problem that didn't exist and then created a solution that we don't need. Even if every transit agency wasted their money to use it the public still wouldn't know what it means because by the time that happens Metklinx will have hied another wayfinding expert who will tell them somethig completely different.That’s because it’s only been used on a very tiny part of the GO network with no real explanation, it was supposed to be a symbol that represented the entire GTHA, if everyone adopted it the general public would soon know what it means
It wasn't some guy who picked it. It was a study that looked at many options and had many reviewers. I think some signs in Pickering still have an earlier test logo. I would argue it was needed. If we are going to have a seamless cross GTA network, the signage to say this is where you find transit should be similar. A rider should not need to be a transit geek that remembers all the logos of all the operators in the GTA Similar to going to the airport the symbol of airplane and name Pearson are shown on highway signs, not the GTAA logo which only transportation geeks (like myself) would be able to recognize. Putting "T" first says "this is not about unique branding, this is about purpose".Metrolinx had a wayfinding expert who created a problem that didn't exist and then created a solution that we don't need.
It wasn't some guy who picked it. It was a study that looked at many options and had many reviewers. I think some signs in Pickering still have an earlier test logo. I would argue it was needed. If we are going to have a seamless cross GTA network, the signage to say this is where you find transit should be similar. A rider should not need to be a transit geek that remembers all the logos of all the operators in the GTA Similar to going to the airport the symbol of airplane and name Pearson are shown on highway signs, not the GTAA logo which only transportation geeks (like myself) would be able to recognize. Putting "T" first says "this is not about unique branding, this is about purpose".
I think you are massively overestimating how many people actually care about logos.In ten years people will ask why does unrenovated station X have such dated looking signage with a 1950s style shield logo or 1960s GO logo.
what constitutes to "many of us"?? UT foamers?? or was there an actual study by a diverse general public?Many of us would and have argued, the T was a poor choice, and added confusion rather than clarity.
what constitutes to "many of us"?? UT foamers?? or was there an actual study by a diverse general public?
How does putting T logo help? People can see a subway station or a bus stop and realize it's transit. If they can't then adding a small T logo won't help either. What could help is the logo of the transit agencies and route numbers operated from that stop.It wasn't some guy who picked it. It was a study that looked at many options and had many reviewers. I think some signs in Pickering still have an earlier test logo. I would argue it was needed. If we are going to have a seamless cross GTA network, the signage to say this is where you find transit should be similar. A rider should not need to be a transit geek that remembers all the logos of all the operators in the GTA Similar to going to the airport the symbol of airplane and name Pearson are shown on highway signs, not the GTAA logo which only transportation geeks (like myself) would be able to recognize. Putting "T" first says "this is not about unique branding, this is about purpose".
Once again are you seeing it from a general public hat or a UT foamer hat? ML is marketing the T as the sign for transit. People who are not transit nerds will be conditioned to recognize it for what it is. It's only here where we try to armchair it away. Let's stop wasting our energy on a freakn letter and focus on more important things such as why oncorr is taking so long to get going.How does putting T logo help? People can see a subway station or a bus stop and realize it's transit. If they can't then adding a small T logo won't help either. What could help is the logo of the transit agencies and route numbers operated from that stop.