GOTransitFan206
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Also, any updates on 200-214 yet?
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pokechimp88
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Either way the cab car is ugly, either a Rotem cab with asymmetrical windows or a CEM cab car. And most railfans hate them because of bad horns (K2 on the Rotem and K5CA-LS on the CEM), but they're generally safer than gallery cars/old BiLevels though.
dowlingm
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Alstom have a render video in their announcement here.
Alstom to supply 200 multilevel commuter rail cars to Chicago’s Metra for €650 million
18 March 2021 – Alstom has received an initial order from Metra, the
GOTransitFan206
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They look like the Gallery Cars.
Metroscapes
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Maybe in terms of paint scheme. They look more like squared off Bombardier Bi-levels to me. And with that, I'm surprised the cab cars have the front end that they do, and not like CEM cab cars.
GOTransitFan206
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The right side window is taller.
That was one thing why railfans don't like the CEM / Rotem cabs.
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WB62
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For the CEMs, how often was GO using the flat cab cars mid train before the cab cars were refit with an additional door earlier this year that allowed the consist splits?
I don’t think it happened before this year, and wasn’t a problem to GO, so railfans not liking the CEMs for that reason is unreasonable
GOTransitFan206
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Well, they also didn't like it because of the ABSOLUTELY GARBAGE K5CA-LS horn.
WB62
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I don’t understand the horn stuff, it’s literally just something to get people’s attention and it’s not supposed to sound pretty
GOTransitFan206
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Don't the K5LA's exert more force? I saw a VIA at Bronte do a runby with the horn. I was in the parking lot, and it was really quiet. Besides, foamers make those "Loudest Sounds on Earth" memes, and 3rd Gen K5LLA is always at the top. I know GO dosen't use these, but they're both K5 horns.
GOTransitFan206
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Well, I haven't found anything on 200-214 yet. All there is, is just videos on the shipment to and from North Bay.
lenaitch
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The horns point forward. If they exerted too much force, wouldn't they slow the train down?
GOTransitFan206
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You cannot propel anything using sound (waves) alone; sound is just a travelling wave and does not consistently move any air in a particular direction so emitting a sound wave does not generate thrust.
Very likely. This might be everyone's third chance to catch it running. I'm planning on going downtown today.
crs1026
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Apparently Transport Canada, the FRA, and several railways and operators don't have the benefit of your wisdom and expertise.
The key criteria for a railway horn are
- It must be audible at the specified distance, speed, and direction
- It must be recognizable as a railway horn (and not mistaken for a truck on a nearby road etc)
- It must have appropriate control functionality
- It must have a tone and pitch that creates alarm and sense of urgency in the listener
Please enlighten us on how this particular horn does not meet these criteria.
- Paul
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lenaitch
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Well it seems fanbois lack a humour detection gene.
Actually, you can, it's just a comparatively weak force.