[reaperexpress]

This is absolutely not true. They are allowed something like 25% of the seats for standees on any run operating on a highway - none upstairs on a double-decker. And they do this all the time.

Now granted, there may be different rules if the bus is seatbelt equipped. But most of the fleet right now is not.

Dan

Nice try, but this "umm actually" attempt is a total miss. I was explicitly talking about buses with seatbelts (i.e. all new buses in the past five years) and I provided links to the laws (not operating rules) that apply to buses with seatbelts.

 

[Amare]

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The open baggage compartments are a surprise to me.

I swear isnt there some kind of legislation that doesnt permit it in Canada, which is why we always see closed compartments?

I know for instance when Greyhound was in operation in Canada, the Canadian vehicles always had closed compartments whereas the American operations had those open wired compartments on newer coaches.

 

[Bordercollie]

One of the F59s at North Bay is in the process of being repainted (post title says it's a Metrolink unit, but it could also be 560, the unit that was sent up as well for templating).
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They already patched the hole in the prime mover?

 

[dowlingm]

They already patched the hole in the prime mover?

One thing I have been turning over in my head is how well a 2700hp QSK60 fits in an F59PH, if GO is seriously considering removing some to make way for battery packs.

 

[SkylineHorizons]

There's little need for concrete or paved platforms when there are no crews walking the trains. It's a tough place to grow grass.

Except there are guys walking in freight yards all the time. From the mainline crews who pull the trains in, to the yard conductors who build the trains and the car department that pre-trips the them. Those who have only even been observers may not mind them, but as someone who used to actually work in places like that I greatly disliked them due to how sore my feet used to get walking on the ballast and stepping over weeds all day long feeling like I was in a scene from the Walking Dead, which is why it was such a nice reprieve to finally work in a properly maintained and well kept yard instead.

Colourful trains, pretty clean buildings with relatively solid HVAC, solid lighting?

I mean, if you wanted a stark contrast you need an overhead shot of Whitby RMF.

Exactly. Plus not having to worry about tripping over weeds and having much of the yard paved as opposed to having little or none is a real foot saver!

Can you name a rail yard that looks different?

To follow up further on this, why don't I just show you:

Now THAT'S what I call a proper train yard(s).

 

[lenaitch]

Except there are guys walking in freight yards all the time. From the mainline crews who pull the trains in, to the yard conductors who build the trains and the car department that pre-trips the them. Those who have only even been observers may not mind them, but as someone who used to actually work in places like that I greatly disliked them due to how sore my feet used to get walking on the ballast and stepping over weeds all day long feeling like I was in a scene from the Walking Dead, which is why it was such a nice reprieve to finally work in a properly maintained and well kept yard instead.

Exactly. Plus not having to worry about tripping over weeds and having much of the yard paved as opposed to having little or none is a real foot saver!

To follow up further on this, why don't I just show you:
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Now THAT'S what I call a proper train yard(s).

The conversation dates back several months so I might have missed something, but for clarity, are you arguing that all rail yards, MacMillan, Agincourt, Symington, Moosonee, etc. should be paved (asphalt/concrete)?

 

[drum118]

March 18 2019

July 21, 2017

November 06, 2016

Whitby
May 04, 2019

CN
April 16/23

 

[SkylineHorizons]

The conversation dates back several months so I might have missed something, but for clarity, are you arguing that all rail yards, MacMillan, Agincourt, Symington, Moosonee, etc. should be paved (asphalt/concrete)?

I had meant to upload the pictures of Willowbrook earlier for comparison’s sake but due to a heavy workload I only got around to it recently.

I’m not saying the yards should be paved over entirely, but certainly more than they are now. There are many improvements that could make them safer and more hospitable, re: poor housekeeping and upkeep which I can clearly tell from a single glace. I personally complained about one of the yards you mentioned above after nearly suffering a serious injury there. While operating a belt pack, I tripped over a large mass of debris in the six-foot and nearly stumbled headfirst onto live track. Unfortunately my complaints were essentially ignored. Management at that yard had a very adversarial relationship with the workforce/union and they wouldn’t lift a finger to make conditions even marginally better. I was basically told that if I didn’t like it I could leave, which is exactly what I did, so I’m not going to be shy about calling them-or others out when I see a turd. I’ve also criticized Metrolinx many times in the past (just see my post history under this account or my old one: vegeta_skyline), but I will give them credit for the far superior conditions and maintenance standards of their workplaces.

 

[smallspy]

They already patched the hole in the prime mover?

The prime movers that the units were shipped with - if any still had them - have been damaged in such a way that they can not possibly be made operable again. That's part of the terms of the funding program for their replacements.

ONR has 3 "new" engine blocks that they'd already acquired for the project, and are looking for more.

One thing I have been turning over in my head is how well a 2700hp QSK60 fits in an F59PH, if GO is seriously considering removing some to make way for battery packs.

It's an interesting idea. I don't know what the mounting locations are on a QSK or how it could interface with the EMD alternator, if it is at all possible.

Dan

 

[APTA-2048]

The open baggage compartments are a surprise to me.

I swear isnt there some kind of legislation that doesnt permit it in Canada, which is why we always see closed compartments?

I know for instance when Greyhound was in operation in Canada, the Canadian vehicles always had closed compartments whereas the American operations had those open wired compartments on newer coaches.

I’m not sure that’s a requirement. GO Transit’s MCIs from the 80s had open parcel racks. Greyhound Canada’s newer MCIs that they bought new actually had open parcel racks too.

 

[Amare]

I’m not sure that’s a requirement. GO Transit’s MCIs from the 80s had open parcel racks. Greyhound Canada’s newer MCIs that they bought new actually had open parcel racks too.

Certainly I remember some open compartments on some vehicles, but from what I remember (at least in Greyhound's case) some of those vehicles were newer American coaches that were transferred to Greyhound Canada.

I'm not sure where/when the legislation was in place, but i'm 90% sure there was something in place in the past (if it still isnt in place today).

 

[drum118]

Certainly I remember some open compartments on some vehicles, but from what I remember (at least in Greyhound's case) some of those vehicles were newer American coaches that were transferred to Greyhound Canada.

I'm not sure where/when the legislation was in place, but i'm 90% sure there was something in place in the past (if it still isnt in place today).

I have seen GO, Greyhound and other intercity buses open the capartment doors at the botton of the bus on bothsides of them in NA. Even seen this in Europe as well on an articulate double deck coach bus.

 

[Amare]

I have seen GO, Greyhound and other intercity buses open the capartment doors at the botton of the bus on bothsides of them in NA. Even seen this in Europe as well on an articulate double deck coach bus.

I'm talking about the overhead inner baggage compartment, not the luggage compartment on the underside of coaches.

 

[Milaisacat]

LOL old guy bragging rights - once upon a time, TTC/GCL augmented local school boards' bus fleets with chartered end-of-life coaches fitted with School Bus signs. Summer Parks and Rec programs, also.

My Grade 5-6 diet included Cancars, Twins, GM Old Looks, and (once) a PD-4104.

Uphill, both ways.

- Paul

Semi-related senior millennial bragging rights - in Vancouver, when the 99 B-Line express bus service was first launched in the late 90s, Translink, which was brand new, didn't really have enough buses to cover the new service. So they leased/bought a bunch of ancient buses from transit agencies in the Seattle region. For several months, I rode old GM fishbowl buses with a Seattle Metro Transit livery before Translink's first order of New Flyer 60' DLF buses began rolling out in a special 99 B-line Translink livery.

 

[APTA-2048]

Certainly I remember some open compartments on some vehicles, but from what I remember (at least in Greyhound's case) some of those vehicles were newer American coaches that were transferred to Greyhound Canada.

I'm not sure where/when the legislation was in place, but i'm 90% sure there was something in place in the past (if it still isnt in place today).

The MCIs from the 1970s and early 1980s definitely had open racks. The MCIs from the late 1980s and 1990s probably had enclosed racks (I’d have to check the photo I took). The 2006 MCIs Greyhound Canada bought new in 2006 definitely had open racks. I rode them a lot to Cambridge and Kitchener when they were new.