denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
^why the sudden interest in the social structure of my family?
Just Curious. I hear the same thing from lots of people as to why they can spend an hour - 90 minutes but can't live in the city they work in.
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^why the sudden interest in the social structure of my family?
Just Curious. I hear the same thing from lots of people as to why they can spend an hour - 90 minutes but can't live in the city they work in.
Remember Milton was nothing until 10years ago. Brampton fine, and Mississauga had lakeshore. I think the problem is GO caters to the richer communities along lakeshore and for some reason feels the other lines current ridership don't justify that? I disagree though.
Well if GO caters only for the rich we have much deeper problem than could have been imagined. The superior transit links to the city are part of the Location/Location/Location formula that drives their house prices higher (average home price in Oakville is about double Brampton)...it is not the only factor but it is a factor....so by continually increasing the relative gap in those transit links, the government of Ontario is, quite literally, taxing people in Brampton (insert whatever community you like, I pick mine) in order to increase the wealth of people in Oakville (again, just the one I pick when I have this conversation with friends....a lot of whom live in Oakville).
Who knew the Ontario government was a reverse Robin Hood? Katherine Wynne....steals from the poor and gives to the rich!
BTW...while I believe in that wealth transfer theory I present above, I should say I don't feel particularly poor.
This is not favouritism towards the Lakeshore Line. It's a matter of the infrastructure, crews and vehicles being in place/ready to go. The people at GO would love to add trains to the Milton line but there's one issue: CP. GO would love to add more trains to Barrie but: it's largely single tracked (Teston siding has come about in the last little while), and the line isn't even fully signalized from Barrie-Parkdale. GO would love to add more trains to Kitchener but we have the GTS project. GO has been adding more service to Stouffville but again, it's constrained by having one track. Richmond Hill's numbers aren't raising red flags about adding service, so nothing is being done there.If you live elsewhere, you can wait 15 years for what we deem is not good enough near the lake today."
That's nonsense. GO caters to ridership levels, cost:recovery ratios, and available infrastructure to run the service.. I think the problem is GO caters to the richer communities along lakeshore and for some reason feels the other lines current ridership don't justify that? I disagree though.
This is not favouritism towards the Lakeshore Line. It's a matter of the infrastructure, crews and vehicles being in place/ready to go. The people at GO would love to add trains to the Milton line but there's one issue: CP. GO would love to add more trains to Barrie but: it's largely single tracked (Teston siding has come about in the last little while), and the line isn't even fully signalized from Barrie-Parkdale. GO would love to add more trains to Kitchener but we have the GTS project. GO has been adding more service to Stouffville but again, it's constrained by having one track. Richmond Hill's numbers aren't raising red flags about adding service, so nothing is being done there.
This isn't Soviet Russia, where every line must recieve the same service regardless of its factors. This isn't favouritism towards Lakeshore East/West. It's a matter of the infrastructure being in place, crews available and $$ in the budget to carry this out.
That's nonsense. GO caters to ridership levels, cost:recovery ratios, and available infrastructure to run the service.
I thought Gary McNeil had been at GO for less than 15 years.Would have to dig through some dusty boxes to get the date....I would guess that meeting would have been +/- 20 years ago but you are testing my memory....does the timing of him being at that meeting have some relevance? or just curious?
The promises are only as good as the politicians behind them. I'm not sure how staff would be in any place to make promises.Whatever the reason, what value do their promises have?
Not when it turns out that the article is talking about Guelph not getting off-peak service for 15-20 years, rather than Brampton.I am surprised that you are surprised. Everyone pays into GO through their taxes. So the juxtaposition of articles saying "X" won't get off peak service for 15 - 20 years and articles saying "Y" will have its offpeak service doubled has got to get all the "X"s raising spokian eyebrows....no?
I thought Gary McNeil had been at GO for less than 15 years.
The promises are only as good as the politicians behind them. I'm not sure how staff would be in any place to make promises.
Not when it turns out that the article is talking about Guelph not getting off-peak service for 15-20 years, rather than Brampton.
This is not favouritism towards the Lakeshore Line. It's a matter of the infrastructure, crews and vehicles being in place/ready to go. The people at GO would love to add trains to the Milton line but there's one issue: CP. GO would love to add more trains to Barrie but: it's largely single tracked (Teston siding has come about in the last little while), and the line isn't even fully signalized from Barrie-Parkdale. GO would love to add more trains to Kitchener but we have the GTS project. GO has been adding more service to Stouffville but again, it's constrained by having one track. Richmond Hill's numbers aren't raising red flags about adding service, so nothing is being done there.
6 months ago, Metrolinx wouldn't commit to all-day Lakeshore service in any particular time-frame either. Just more shoulder trips, with the ultimate intent of increasing service. And yet here we are.But nor does the article say there will be all day service in Brampton any sooner....just "added service"
6 months ago, Metrolinx wouldn't commit to all-day Lakeshore service in any particular time-frame either. Just more shoulder trips, with the ultimate intent of increasing service. And yet here we are.
If you want this, you need to lobby those who have power to do something. And I don't think any Metrolinx/GO staff fit that bill. I wrote Wynne more than once begging for increased Lakeshore service when she was Transport minister.
And yet they are spending into the $billions to improve infrastructure to move to full day service on that line, with a significant service increase scheduled in 2 years, and commitments to then further increase service, and even electrify....but the situation really is abysmal on an overall basis.
GO trains to run every 30 minutes all day on Lakeshore lines
In the largest single service expansion of its 44-year history, GO transit is increasing train service along the lakeshore — from Oshawa to Aldershot — to every 30 minutes, seven days a week....