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I wonder if GO Transit will make another name for the line coming from Hamilton to Niagara or just call it Lakeshore West? Perhaps Niagara Line.
 
The EA is starting next year, not construction work.

I'm still happy that it's in the works though. I wonder how many grade seperations would be needed for this? I'd imagine they'd at least want to do separations on the major streets especially if frequency is going to increase substantially.
 
Do people think GO Transit is becoming more or less transparent?

I like the reports being online - but at the old GO meetings, there were detailed reports on customer service stats and OTP - and those certainly aren't online now either.

Any thoughts?
 
I prefer it when they combine names so it should be something like the Hamgara or the Hamcathgara line. Make it sound exotic!
 
The good thing about the Lakeshore lines is that they don't need to be renamed every time they get lengthened.

When the Bradford Line reached Barrie South, it became the Barrie Line.

Oddly enough, when Stouffville reached Lincolnville, it remained Stouffville.

When Georgetown reaches Kitchener, it'll probably be renamed the Kitchener Line.
When Milton reaches Cambridge, it'll likely be renamed the Cambridge Line.

When the Lakeshore West line reached Niagara, it gets to remain Lakeshore West. Saves effort to not have to rename the whole line.
 
Metrolinx announces Community Advisory Committee for electrification study

TORONTO, July 13 /CNW/ - The new Metrolinx Board of Directors today
established a Community Advisory Committee that will work with Metrolinx to
study the electrification of the entire GO Transit rail system.
The Community Advisory Committee will work with the Metrolinx Board to
define the scope of the study. The committee will also recommend the terms of
reference to the Board, including the benefits, impacts and costs associated
with converting the existing railway from conventional diesel to electric.
After receiving the advice of the Advisory Committee, the Board of
Metrolinx will set the terms of reference for the study in fall 2009. The
electrification study is scheduled to be completed by December 2010.
The 16-member Community Advisory Committee is comprised of community
members with expertise in transportation, environment, engineering, health,
urban planning, policy analysis, alternative energy, community leadership,
business, finance, law and GO ridership.
"Metrolinx is very excited to have this outstanding group of community
representatives giving us their best advice on this important study," said Rob
MacIsaac, Chair of the Metrolinx Board. "We are directing significant
Metrolinx resources to ensure that careful consideration is given to all the
benefits, challenges and costs. We want to make the right choices the first
time when it comes to electrification of the GO system."
This is the first electrification study of the entire GO rail system and
will be the most comprehensive study to date of its kind.
"Electrification is a critically important issue and we want to get it
right. This excellent Community Advisory Committee will help us do just that,"
said Rob Prichard, President and CEO of Metrolinx. "Electrification would
require a major new investment by the Province. We want to make sure the
choices are properly framed in the context of our broader mandate to recommend
the best possible investments to improve transportation, the environment, the
quality of life and the economy in the GTHA."

The Community Advisory Committee members are:

- CHAIR, Daniel Burns, Former Deputy Minister, Ontario Minister of
Health and Long-Term Care; Chairman, Centre for Addiction and Mental
Health; Trustee, Maytree Foundation
- VICE CHAIR, Pamela Robinson, Assistant Professor and Vice Chair,
School of Urban & Regional Planning, Ryerson University; Secretary,
Friends of the Greenbelt Foundation
- Frank Giannone, President, FRAM Building Group; President, Ontario
Home Builders' Association
- Dina Graser, Lawyer, Goodmans LLP; Chair, People Plan Toronto
- Dr. Linn Holness, Professor and Director, Gage Occupational and
Environmental Health Unit, University of Toronto and St. Michael's
Hospital
- Gerry Johnston, Former Assistant Deputy Minister, Ontario Ministry of
Transportation
- Ed Levy, Former President and Chairman, BA Consulting Group Ltd.
- Eva Ligeti, Executive Director, Clean Air Partnership; Former
Environmental Commissioner of Ontario; Former Principal, Sheppard
Campus, Seneca College of Applied Arts and Technology
- Eli Malinsky, Member, Center for Social Innovation; Member,
Clean Train Coalition
- Brian E. McCarry, Professor and Chair, Department of Chemistry and
Chemical Biology, McMaster University; Chair, Clean Air Hamilton
- Danny Nikitopoulos, Chartered Accountant and Valuation Specialist,
KPMG LLP; Member, GO's Customer Service Advisory Committee
- Bob Oliver, Executive Director, Pollution Probe
- Murray Skinner, Former President, Metroland Media Group; Honourary
life member, Canadian Community Newspaper Association
- Jim Tovey, President, Lakeview Ratepayers Association; Vice Chair,
City of Mississauga Heritage Advisory Committee
- Michael Warren, Chair and CEO, The Warren Group; Former Chief General
Manager, TTC
- Alan Wells, Chair, Rouge Park Alliance; Former Chief Administrative
Officer, York Region

"We have an ambitious task before us and together with my colleagues we
will to rise to the occasion," said Dan Burns, Chair of the newly-formed
Community Advisory Committee.
The Big Move, Metrolinx's 25 year integrated transportation plan,
identified electrified Express Rail and Regional Rail as part of the
organization's overall plan for more rapid transit expansion.
A single 12-car GO Train takes nearly 1,700 single occupancy vehicles off
the road and every weekday, more than 25,000 single occupancy vehicles are
removed from roads by passengers taking the GO Train. GO Transit's current
fleet of diesel locomotives are among the cleanest available, using technology
that maintains emissions consistent with the U.S. Environmental Protection
Act's Tier 2 Emission Standards.
Metrolinx is a Crown agency of the Province of Ontario. For more
information, visit www.metrolinx.com
GO Transit, a division of Metrolinx, is the Province of Ontario's
interregional public transit system linking Toronto with the surrounding
regions of the Greater Toronto Area. For more information, visit
www.gotransit.com.
 
- They openly acknowledge that weekday service to Niagara is in the offing, including the long suspected new station at Stoney Creek, but also at Grimsby.

Wasn't this announced months ago?

If memory serves me correctly, the Grimsby GO parking lot is currently under construction around Casablanca...everyone in Grimsby seems to know about the service already, and I expect the buses to be very well-used, with many, if not most, riders going not farther than Oakville (but some would go all the way to Union). The Niagara service will take cars off the QEW, which is desperately needed - the QEW was jammed for a good 50km from at least Grimsby to Winston Churchill on Sunday.
 
I don't believe so

I don't believe GO ever previous confirmed Weekday Train service to Niagara.

The announcement earlier this year spoke of buses, which will be launched this fall.

The weekend train service pilot is underway, of course, till Thanksgiving.

What the new document presented to Metrolinx board shows is specific and early timing for the EA necessary for new stations and new track and signal improvements for full weekday train service.
 
If that slide is referring to GO train service alone (and not service in general along train corridors), then I guess the Grimsby station listed under "Scope" is for the future GO train station and not the future (though under construction) GO bus station. The Grimsby GO train station would be at Casablanca with the GO bus station and not over in the middle of Grimsby with the VIA station, which is a mild shame (though since everyone will drive or get driven to the train even if it stopped at the VIA stop, it doesn't *really* matter that much that the GO station will be closer to a Rona than to actual residents).

I haven't seen anything to suggest Beamsville would get a bus or train stop, but it should at some point.
 
This might sound ridiculous at first blush, but what about using fast ferries instead of trains for some of those longer trips. Of course, this only applies to Lakeshore...and in particular Lakeshore West. Hamilton and the Niagara peninsula would be quite accessible by ferry.
 
This might sound ridiculous at first blush, but what about using fast ferries instead of trains for some of those longer trips. Of course, this only applies to Lakeshore...and in particular Lakeshore West. Hamilton and the Niagara peninsula would be quite accessible by ferry.

I don't think you could make Hamilton work by ferry. Given the geography of the city's lakeshore and harbour, it would be hard to find a spot where you could drop people off that would be convenienlty accessible. If you are in the east or west end, you can probably be at Burlington station via the QEW or 403 before you could get to the ferry docks.
Also, these ferrys would have to be able to cut through the ice in the winter.
 

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