denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
I'm guessing Guelph, Brampton, and maybe other small towns along the track will be angered by not having stops.
The 15 minute GO service will mask that enough.
I'm guessing Guelph, Brampton, and maybe other small towns along the track will be angered by not having stops.
I'm guessing Guelph, Brampton, and maybe other small towns along the track will be angered by not having stops.
I'm guessing Guelph, Brampton, and maybe other small towns along the track will be angered by not having stops.
Not to get repetitive...but one of those municipalities that you mention is larger than any getting stops on this service other than Toronto.
What's this to do with Toronto? Well you have introduced a green belt and people don't want Toronto growing too large. So the potential is there to seriously upgrade the railways around Toronto and Massively expand commuting from the surrounding towns. If all the lines increase their line speeds and then add some quad track sections you could develop an extensive commuter belt up to 120km from Toronto.
In the UK it's a rule of thumb that 100 minutes commute by train is the point in which you see significant commuting to London (though more people are going further). As time has gone on the trains companies have pushed faster and faster services and line speeds have gradually been improved. In such a scenario many small towns with a rail service could see significant suburban expansion. New Settlements could be built around new stations on existing lines.
It's a big vision but if Ontario continues to grow in population then over a 30 year time period it could be easily achievable. A constellation of medium sized commuter towns Between Kitchener, Guleph, Cambridge and London could form the population base for local business in the area, with a mixture of rail commuting to Toronto and between theses local centres.
Kingston airport hasn't ever been primarily passenger. It's primarily general aviation. Eliminating passenger air service would have little impact on Kingston Airport. Ditto for the others.Really, I think we should get rid of all these stupid little airports--Kingston, London, Kitchener, etc.--and just have all passenger air service out of YYZ and YOW, with rail connections between them all.
rail based access isn't urban sprawl as development is urban in form. It builds a more multi modal province instead of most growth occurring in the central city while rural outer communities stagnate.
As a citizen of Kingston I can definitely tell that in the small cities of Ontario no one uses the local airports. Everyone just drives to Toronto. It's cost. If I'm going to say, Paris, I can fly Kingston-Toronto-Paris but Air Canada basically adds $500 to the trip compared to the cost of just going straight to Toronto.
Really, I think we should get rid of all these stupid little airports--Kingston, London, Kitchener, etc.--and just have all passenger air service out of YYZ and YOW, with rail connections between them all.
Though even a while after the HSR announcement now, I'm still confused as to how the plan will not interfere or duplicate service with the UPX.