David A
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I sure hope not. In any event, here is an update, I just saw. At least a bit of good news.
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David A
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I noticed some downtown today too. Some days the LRT is great, no problems, other days not so good. I don't know if that is because of enforcement or other things or some combination of them. I do feel overall an effort is being made and it is getting better, but not always consistently.
_urbanite
Senior Member
Yesterday I caught wind of a plan for a "large sweep" that's going to be performed Friday downtown by EPS, with help from private security firms and Alberta Sheriff's... we'll see what ends up happening
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trevorhayden
Active Member
You mean they're going to sweep the sidewalks? Fantastic! That's the only dirt I see downtown.
trevorhayden
Active Member
Where are the police going to "sweep" homeless people to? Chinatown? I'm sure that will go over well. Just ask Hung Trang and Ban Phuc Hoang!
The_Cat
Senior Member
^ Mind you, that person was dropped off at the edge of Edmonton.
Greenspace
Senior Member
EPS Downtown are on a later shift now during the playoffs, so they might seem more visible but just shifted schedule.
_urbanite
Senior Member
I doubt that's what's going to happen. If anything, they're going to "sweep" for vagrants with outstanding warrants and arrest them. I don't think they're going to be targeted the panhandlers and non-aggressive homeless folks
TAS
Senior Member
Another vehicle accident today with an injury.
Except this time it's a vehicle crashing into a bus stop shelter and injuring a patron.
edmontonjournal.com
Except this time it's a vehicle crashing into a bus stop shelter and injuring a patron.
Vehicle crashes into Edmonton bus stop, man taken to hospital: police
The sole occupant of a vehicle that collided with bus shelter in central Edmonton was transported to hospital with injuries, police say.
edmontonjournal.com
Gronk!
Senior Member
It was the driver that was injured, not "a patron"
TAS
Senior Member
Yes, sorry about that folks
TAS
Senior Member
Our city administration has reported these same findings to our council that this report going to Calgary's council does:
"There is no correlation between the provision of fare gates and increased transit safety on existing systems with fare gates,” it reads.
“Other transit agencies with fare gates experienced increased safety-related incidents throughout the pandemic and increased complexity with intersecting societal considerations impacting public transit.”
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"There is no correlation between the provision of fare gates and increased transit safety on existing systems with fare gates,” it reads.
“Other transit agencies with fare gates experienced increased safety-related incidents throughout the pandemic and increased complexity with intersecting societal considerations impacting public transit.”
City report says closed transit system would not improve safety
The report says a fully closed system in Calgary is “not feasible” due to the way certain stations are integrated into the community.
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thommyjo
Senior Member
The feasibility of install is a real problem for Edmonton. But it is true as well I think that Vancouver has found some success in using fare gates. It’s too late for us to try to fix our system though to make that an option without insane costs and come stations getting almost full rebuilds though. And the new valley lines won’t have a way to be gated either. Cleaning, enforcement, and zero tolerance has to be the solution. And of course all the other tools needed for the drug crisis and mental health challenges we’re seeing get worse. I think for Vancouver, it’s less about fare gates and more about the quality of station designs, the busyness of stations, and the view of the skytrain as essential.Our city administration has reported these same findings to our council that this report going to Calgary's council does:
"There is no correlation between the provision of fare gates and increased transit safety on existing systems with fare gates,” it reads.
“Other transit agencies with fare gates experienced increased safety-related incidents throughout the pandemic and increased complexity with intersecting societal considerations impacting public transit.”
City report says closed transit system would not improve safety
The report says a fully closed system in Calgary is “not feasible” due to the way certain stations are integrated into the community.
Garneau2Go
Active Member
I'm not convinced that turnstiles are a solution either. When I was in London, tube stations had attendants at the turnstiles, and I think without them people are going to just jump over the barricades.
Monitored CCTV plus peace officers is the way to go I think. Dispatch, connect to resources, and move people along if need be.
Monitored CCTV plus peace officers is the way to go I think. Dispatch, connect to resources, and move people along if need be.
archited
Senior Member
Studies suggest that well monitored entries to (particularly) subway stations improves safety and therefore usage. When the sensibility vis-a-vis ride ability improves, ridership goes way up.