IanO
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Truly awful.
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The_Cat
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I think Edmonton has to get past this mentality of offending the "vulnerable people". Yes, many of these people need help, but they also need supervision if they want to recover.
Also, there are at least three or four subclasses of homeless. There are working poor on the streets because they cannot afford housing. There are people on AISH who get exploited on the streets. These people need affordable housing and would gladly take it. A third class is our youth who would benefit from YESS or other shelters.
Those with addictions need treatment and other help before getting affordable housing. Finally, there is a dangerous class that are career criminals.
Also, there are at least three or four subclasses of homeless. There are working poor on the streets because they cannot afford housing. There are people on AISH who get exploited on the streets. These people need affordable housing and would gladly take it. A third class is our youth who would benefit from YESS or other shelters.
Those with addictions need treatment and other help before getting affordable housing. Finally, there is a dangerous class that are career criminals.
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occidentalcapital
Senior Member
Well-said.
I would also point out that all evidence indicates the "vulnerable population" is actually the general public. The normal working person taking the train home from their job who gets verbally and then physically assauted and has their leg broken on the tracks. That is who is really vulnerable on the system or so it would seem... the others might be facing societal misfortune but violence is never the answer.
I would also point out that all evidence indicates the "vulnerable population" is actually the general public. The normal working person taking the train home from their job who gets verbally and then physically assauted and has their leg broken on the tracks. That is who is really vulnerable on the system or so it would seem... the others might be facing societal misfortune but violence is never the answer.
The_Cat
Senior Member
More LRT stupidity:
The_Cat
Senior Member
Another sad incident. Let's hope this doesn't happen tomorrow night.
occidentalcapital
Senior Member
Wow - that video shows why City needs loitering bylaw STAT.
Mouthy entitled brats deciding to camp out in the space and thinking they own it. It is small wonder that commuters are being scared off.
Mouthy entitled brats deciding to camp out in the space and thinking they own it. It is small wonder that commuters are being scared off.
The_Cat
Senior Member
Gronk!
Senior Member
'It was terrifying': B.C. visitors to steer clear of Edmonton after being attacked on transit
Two women from Victoria, B.C., say they are unlikely to ever visit Edmonton again after they were attacked twice while trying to take the bus in the Alberta capital.
IanO
Superstar
It's so disheartening to hear about so many of these kinds of events of late. Come on Edmonton, you are better than that.
JNO1
Active Member
What the #€|| are the powers that be waiting for? For people to start dying grizzly deaths on trains or platforms? We are at an “all hands on deck” situation right now and need to be throwing everything we can at this problem. Come on COE and GOA. Do something!!! Anything!!! 
ChazYEG
Senior Member
Again, as much as this is a symptom of much larger socio-economic and healthcare issues, we cannot let this things keep happening.
When you have Cancer, you don't just do chemo (long term, difficult and sometimes not effective at the beginning), but you also treat symptoms so that the patient can have quality of life until he's cured.
This is not so different. We can tackle the underlying poverty, mental health, addiction and houselesness issues broadly, with socially sensitive tools, but we also need to establish that, regardless of the reason, a lot of these people are committing crimes against other citizens and the latter also need protection and care.
We need more police presence in the streets (beat cops, especially Downtown), we also need an actual Transit Police, pay barriers in the LRT stations (as many of them as possible), we could do with the return of the loitering bylaw.
When you have Cancer, you don't just do chemo (long term, difficult and sometimes not effective at the beginning), but you also treat symptoms so that the patient can have quality of life until he's cured.
This is not so different. We can tackle the underlying poverty, mental health, addiction and houselesness issues broadly, with socially sensitive tools, but we also need to establish that, regardless of the reason, a lot of these people are committing crimes against other citizens and the latter also need protection and care.
We need more police presence in the streets (beat cops, especially Downtown), we also need an actual Transit Police, pay barriers in the LRT stations (as many of them as possible), we could do with the return of the loitering bylaw.
CaptainBL
Active Member
I truly believe and would be willing to bet that there are more attacks on a daily basis than what you see in the news. What you see reported in the news are only attacks that are actually making headlines but if you filter through Twitter you can see everyday transit users that have documented attacks or issues.'It was terrifying': B.C. visitors to steer clear of Edmonton after being attacked on transit
Two women from Victoria, B.C., say they are unlikely to ever visit Edmonton again after they were attacked twice while trying to take the bus in the Alberta capital.edmonton.ctvnews.ca
I also drove by the Royal Alex on Sunday around 1pm and saw 8 police cruisers at the transit station with yellow tape wrapped around the station but did not see anything on that one on the news.
The issue is dire, regardless of what Transit management folks would like you to believe.
The_Cat
Senior Member
I think there should be 211 signs at LRT stations and other public locations. Also, would it be helpful to have the transit call buttons for people in distress as well as crimes?
Gronk!
Senior Member
Editorial: LRT safety needs stepping up
Last week, Edmonton Transit Service’s branch manager held a news conference to allay fears about the safety of the system days after the latest high-profile…
edmontonjournal.com
TAS
Senior Member
“We saw open violence, we saw knives, we saw open drug use, a lot of general bad behaviour,” said ???. “Everybody I’m talking to, no one wants to ride the train anymore.”
That was Calgary councillor Dan McLean today. They are looking for solutions as well from more enforcement to turnstiles.
calgaryherald.com
Maybe the two cities need to join forces in solutioning and provincial advocacy.
That was Calgary councillor Dan McLean today. They are looking for solutions as well from more enforcement to turnstiles.
Councillors call for action to combat violence along Calgary Transit lines
Coun. Dan McLean said he has heard from many Calgarians who are afraid to travel from his south Calgary ward into downtown
calgaryherald.com
Maybe the two cities need to join forces in solutioning and provincial advocacy.