animatronic
Senior Member
The second report is totally above board - he just wants to know how much it will cost to insource garbage collection in 2030, so he can compare it to the outsourcing estimate for 2017.
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Palma
Senior Member
Population increase in Toronto per Stats Canada. My calculations show 112,000 increase. Now how many of these were births vs people immigrating here.?
2011
2,615,060
2006
2,503,281
If trend continues (every 5 years 112,000), in 30 years 672,000 more people. But as we know baby boomers are aging, there will be more deaths which means the 672,000 increase will be even less. The reason I point this out is I always see statements like 100,000 people coming to Toronto. Perhaps they mean the greater region but somehow always apply it to as if the 100,000 are coming to Toronto every year, hence they reason why the number of condo units is not excessive. 112,000 over 5 years does not seems excessive to me especially because how many of those are births?
W. K. Lis
Superstar
From the newsroom at City Hall, at this link:
Mayor Tory to launch four-point modernization plan to save money and improve how the city serves the public
"Please meet at the security desk in the Rotunda and you will be escorted to the second floor."?
Should I be worried if I do? Should I leave all metal items and valuables at home?
Mayor Tory to launch four-point modernization plan to save money and improve how the city serves the public
"Please meet at the security desk in the Rotunda and you will be escorted to the second floor."?
Should I be worried if I do? Should I leave all metal items and valuables at home?
rbt
Senior Member
I assume that's code for 1) them not knowing where the meeting will be, and 2) not wanting to be interrupted by stragglers arriving late.
Amare
Senior Member
steveintoronto
Superstar
Wisla:
Christmas has come early:
http://www.insidetoronto.com/news-s...ronto-campaign-tells-former-city-s-residents/Nov 18, 2016 | Vote 0 0
Get Scarborough out of Toronto, campaign tells former city's residents
Free Scarborough runs on persistent anti-Megacity views
Free Scarborough
Mike Adler/Metroland
Kieran Byrne (left) signs a petition Wednesday for Robert McDermott, a realtor collecting signatures to 'Free Scarborough' by de-amalgamating it from the rest of Toronto. McDermott says most Scarborough residents support breaking up the Megacity, and people in Toronto's other former municipalities are interested too.
Scarborough wants out of Toronto. Seriously.
The Free Scarborough campaign is out door-knocking for signatures to redraw a municipal boundary along Victoria Park Avenue in 2018.
Leader Robert McDermott isn’t trying to de-amalgamate the whole Megacity Ontario’s Mike Harris government created. He just wants to give Scarborough back its tax money, autonomy, and city hall.
“We’d manage our own affairs,” he told a woman living near Craiglee Nursing Home in Cliffside, a South Scarborough neighbourhood where McDermott signed up several residents near Kingston Road.
He said he may need 400,000, recorded by volunteers in each Scarborough ward, before the province would hold a referendum.
When one man said he didn’t know enough about the issue, McDermott said Scarborough money was being spent downtown, “squandered and wasted.”
He didn’t sign, but Kieron Byrne did. “It would be a change, and change is always good, right?” Byrne said.
A realtor who twice unsuccessfully ran for councillor in Scarborough, McDermott in 2014 also organized a Toronto-wide slate of candidates against the city’s municipal land transfer tax.
He said Scarborough, once run by fiscally responsible politicians, has different values than the former City of Toronto, where money is spent on things suburban voters don’t want.
“It’s them against us,” McDermott added during an interview, unwavering in arguing what the province did to Scarborough by creating the Megacity in 1998 can be undone.
“We’re not a suburb of Toronto. We’re a viable municipality.”
Freeing Scarborough is an uphill battle, and McDermott said if there’s no referendum in 2018, he’ll run for council again, urging people to vote only for candidates who support a breakup.
“You support amalgamation, you won’t get our vote.”
So far McDermott’s cause has a Facebook page and an email address - thefreescarboroughcampaign@hotmail.com - but soon it will have T-shirts, website and a steering committee, he said.
There’s interest from other former cities in de-amalgamating Toronto. McDermott said he’d work with other campaigns, but they’d have to set up on their own.
Giorgio Mammoliti, a York West councillor with happy memories of independent North York, said amalgamation hasn’t worked for any of the former suburban cities merged with Toronto.
It “ruined our mood” in North York, said Mammoliti, adding people in Scarborough, Etobicoke, East York and York feel the same, seeing resources going to the former Toronto and nothing coming back.
“All we get are scraps to appease us in the suburbs,” Mammoliti said. “They’re turning us into slums.”
Anything’s possible, he added, if there’s a groundswell of people who agree the Megacity should break up.
Toronto-Danforth Councillor Paula Fletcher, who represents an old Toronto ward, moved a motion at city council a few years ago “to explore what de-amalgamation would look like.” She got 16 votes.
She’s surprised Scarborough would want out; its new subway extension, paid with taxes from across the city, is a good deal, she said, but added she understands why anti-amalgamation feeling is still alive.
Toronto’s “legacy” cities, including old Toronto, need more recognition and autonomy, Fletcher said, since people think we don’t understand each other, have different goals, and don’t get enough respect.
There'll be more Downtowners signing this than Scarberians.
And Mammoth Man has the slogan:
[It “ruined our mood” in North York, said Mammoliti,]
LOL!
pman
Senior Member
Agreed. I live downtown and I'd love to see Scarborough de-amalgamate.
Videodrome
Senior Member
I live in Scarborough and am not sure what to think.
steveintoronto
Superstar
I think this is going to be popular with a lot of us! I haven't accessed the petition yet, but certainly will.
Here's the petition:
https://www.change.org/p/robert-mcd...algamate-scarborough-from-the-city-of-toronto
Video writes:
It's going to be rough, Vid. Not unlike the Ford years actually, where regions are pitted against each other. Unfortunately, the ones that get the most hurt are the intelligent, informed innocents.
This story will be picked up by a number of news sources, Torontoist, etc. And the petition will be swamped with "Please leave, don't slam the door..."
Brace yourself.
Videodrome
Senior Member
I would gladly have an LRT and think that most Scarborough councillors are idiots.
steveintoronto
Superstar
I'm with you Vid. Some of the blogs on-line are predicated on a false premise, or at least mostly: That with de-amalgamation, transit funding will return to the source constituents. It must be remembered that the TTC became the domain (albeit with zone fares still intact) of the Metro level of government.
The benefit for Toronto (as in ex-Toronto) is that Council will be far more homogeneous, elect a mayor who represents the core, and then *ostensibly* do as regional government is done in Ontario, and I favour an appointed regional head and members from the constituent municipalities. It sounds undemocratic, but is far more stable and able to push past gridlock:
[...]
What about Regional Councils?
The head of a regional council is called a Regional Chair. The chair is chosen by a vote of the members of regional council or directly elected.
Other members of regional council are selected in various ways. Some are elected directly by the voters to sit on regional council. Some are elected to sit on both the regional council and the local municipal council. In some municipalities, members of local municipal councils are appointed by their councils to serve at the regional level. The head of council of a local municipality is a member of the regional council.
[...]
https://www.amo.on.ca/AMO-Content/Municipal-101/How-Municipal-Government-Works.aspx
I hope to get Wisla back into this string, been bouncing some good ideas off of each other. He might have another view on that. So, transit, where does it sit in the various levels of government if we de-amalgamate? And what level of Region do we wish to attain? I see equal pros and cons for a mega-Region v. just a Metro Region. And transit being delivered at the regional level, super region or not. If super region, then Queen's Park divests the role to that level.
To be continued...
Not even 100 signatures yet, and it has been up for over two weeks
steveintoronto
Superstar
lol! I wasn't going to use my real name and post my email addy and street address, as requested. But I filled out the rest and submitted it. And needless to say, I'm not on the list.Not even 100 signatures yet, and it has been up for over two weeks
It might yet take-off, we'll see. I do note a number of those who signed it were saying, in effect, 'good riddance'.
Videodrome
Senior Member
Northern Light
Superstar
From my post in the Transit Funding Sources thread:
There really isn't much I don't like about this!
If all is announced as suggested:
- Road Tolls are a go
- No fire sale of Hydro or Green P
- One-time capital infusion into Hydro, allowing an increased dividend
- Modest hotel/short-term rental tax.
Looks really solid.
Now.....can he get it through council?
Can he get it through executive?
Questions, questions.
As AOD Noted, there is also a Globe and Mail article on this:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...s-on-dvp-gardiner-expressway/article33012398/
There really isn't much I don't like about this!
If all is announced as suggested:
- Road Tolls are a go
- No fire sale of Hydro or Green P
- One-time capital infusion into Hydro, allowing an increased dividend
- Modest hotel/short-term rental tax.
Looks really solid.
Now.....can he get it through council?
Can he get it through executive?
Questions, questions.
As AOD Noted, there is also a Globe and Mail article on this:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...s-on-dvp-gardiner-expressway/article33012398/