jje1000
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Was it demolished when University Avenue was widened? And speaking of the Richmond and Bay image, it would be nice to get those globular streetlamps back.
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Was it demolished when University Avenue was widened? And speaking of the Richmond and Bay image, it would be nice to get those globular streetlamps back.
thecharioteer
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No, I think it lasted until the 80's.
adma
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Yeah, it lasted until c1990, when the present 438 Uni was built--though was it the same building, or did it undergo Moderne-ish alterations, or what? We need a latter-day photo of it for comparison's sake. (Anyway, it came across as a pretty turgid Ontario gov't building t/w the end)
Mustapha
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Weekend.. time for some non-Toronto Then and Nows:
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/1970s_photos/
http://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/tag/new-york-then-and-now/
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/1970s_photos/
http://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/tag/new-york-then-and-now/
thecharioteer
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I seem to remember it having that stripped-down, cornice-less air about it (with probably bad replacement windows) typical of the time.
Can't find a latter-day shot but here's another earlier view:
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Mustapha
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Then and Now for May 21, 2013.
Then. Convocation Hall, University of Toronto. c1916. To my eye, one of the stranger buildings in Toronto; large and impressive, a standout and somewhat odd.
Now. April 2013.
Then. Convocation Hall, University of Toronto. c1916. To my eye, one of the stranger buildings in Toronto; large and impressive, a standout and somewhat odd.
Now. April 2013.
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Goldie
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'Hats off!' to Queen Victoria.
The Gulyas family outdid the Duke of Connaught (1911) with their enthusiasm.
I expect Victoria is "not amused" by the lack of judicious tree-trimming.
The Gulyas family outdid the Duke of Connaught (1911) with their enthusiasm.
I expect Victoria is "not amused" by the lack of judicious tree-trimming.
Ex-Montreal Girl
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I find the search function here quite infuriating so apologies if somebody has posted this before.
This photo is from the Todmorden Mills collection. The Ice Company at 230 (possibly wrong) Browning c 1970.
I took this today. It's at 236 Browning and now for sale for $899K.
ETA: Today I learned that this was originally called the Lake Simcoe ice Company.
This photo is from the Todmorden Mills collection. The Ice Company at 230 (possibly wrong) Browning c 1970.
I took this today. It's at 236 Browning and now for sale for $899K.
ETA: Today I learned that this was originally called the Lake Simcoe ice Company.
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kiki88
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DSCToronto
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The building that was on the site of the EMS building was the Sons of England Benevolent Society.
"The Sons of England Benevolent Society was founded in Toronto in 1874 as a mutual benefit association catering exclusively to Protestant Englishmen and their male descendants. Using the Sons of England as a case study, this paper attempts to reconcile British ethnic-national fraternalism with recent work exploring the function of voluntary association as a constitutive element of liberalism. While the political positions of British organizations were often contrary to the tenets of liberalism, these associations nonetheless incorporated core liberal principles such as voluntary initiative, self-help, and democracy as organizational objectives. By developing a concept of English brotherhood, adopting an educational and social ethos, and establishing a public identity as a patriotic society, the Sons of England, like other fraternal societies, helped structure a liberal social order. The society functioned in large part as a resource for the development and performance of patriotic masculinity, a gendered civic ideal that featured Anglo-Protestant men as a representative social category in " From: Histoire sociale/Social history Volume 45, Number 89, Mai-May 2012 pp. 25-50 Todd Stubbs: Patriotic Masculinity and Mutual Benefit Fraternalism in Urban English Canada: The Sons of England, 1874–1900
"The Sons of England Benevolent Society was founded in Toronto in 1874 as a mutual benefit association catering exclusively to Protestant Englishmen and their male descendants. Using the Sons of England as a case study, this paper attempts to reconcile British ethnic-national fraternalism with recent work exploring the function of voluntary association as a constitutive element of liberalism. While the political positions of British organizations were often contrary to the tenets of liberalism, these associations nonetheless incorporated core liberal principles such as voluntary initiative, self-help, and democracy as organizational objectives. By developing a concept of English brotherhood, adopting an educational and social ethos, and establishing a public identity as a patriotic society, the Sons of England, like other fraternal societies, helped structure a liberal social order. The society functioned in large part as a resource for the development and performance of patriotic masculinity, a gendered civic ideal that featured Anglo-Protestant men as a representative social category in " From: Histoire sociale/Social history Volume 45, Number 89, Mai-May 2012 pp. 25-50 Todd Stubbs: Patriotic Masculinity and Mutual Benefit Fraternalism in Urban English Canada: The Sons of England, 1874–1900
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Goldie
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It’s not a great quality scan, but I do like this image of the Lumsden Building with most of its awnings unfurled:
Quote - themark:
"I always thought that was one of the most god-awful buildings in downtown - but with the Awnings it looks very handsome. Maybe that was the original architects intention. It would be cool if they brought it back (we don't use windows for light anymore anyways…)."
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Since reading that criticism of the Lumsden Building, I've felt the need to reply with my contrarian viewpoint.
Long after the awnings, I admired the Lumsden Building on each and every visit to that neighbourhood of Yonge St. The beautiful and unique architecture has a special place in my concept of design.
When passing-by last weekend, I had the great pleasure of shooting these pics.
There's no doubt that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
thecharioteer
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Good point, Goldie. One should also put the Lumsden Building in its architectural context of exemplifying the Edwardian Classical style in an office building format. A good description of this style is on the site www.ontarioarchitecture.com, which contains examples on King West:
With the description:
Like many Edwardian buildings, this factory on King Street has an imaginative frontispiece and exaggerated lintels on an unremarkable rectangular brick building.
The piers of the frontispiece are highlighted by heavy stone bands that encompass the Ionic columns. Above this is a lunette with banded voussoirs, an inflated keystone and a Baroque- inspired segmental curved pediment with stone dentil blocks. The pediment is supported by weighty but not ornate brackets.
Rather than a profusion of Classical details as in the Beaux Arts Classicism, Edwardian buildings have one or two concentrated Classical motifs. The stone portico or frontispiece with heavy horizontal banding on a dark building is a standard feature.
And at Queen and Spadina:
Like the example above, this is a commercial building with exaggerated details. The design of the building is reminiscent of Italian Palazzo design. The ground floor is of a different material from the above floors, and the building is capped with a large cornice.
The Edwardian influence is easily recognizable. The second floor has oversized keystones. The first and third floor windows have colonettes with heavy bands. On the lower floor, there is a three-part window with an architrave. The front entrance is on a corner. It is flanked by two columns and topped with a balustraded balcony.
Another good example of the style is St. Charles Court at 30 Charles Street East, built in 1915 and historically designated:
With the description:
Like many Edwardian buildings, this factory on King Street has an imaginative frontispiece and exaggerated lintels on an unremarkable rectangular brick building.
The piers of the frontispiece are highlighted by heavy stone bands that encompass the Ionic columns. Above this is a lunette with banded voussoirs, an inflated keystone and a Baroque- inspired segmental curved pediment with stone dentil blocks. The pediment is supported by weighty but not ornate brackets.
Rather than a profusion of Classical details as in the Beaux Arts Classicism, Edwardian buildings have one or two concentrated Classical motifs. The stone portico or frontispiece with heavy horizontal banding on a dark building is a standard feature.
And at Queen and Spadina:
Like the example above, this is a commercial building with exaggerated details. The design of the building is reminiscent of Italian Palazzo design. The ground floor is of a different material from the above floors, and the building is capped with a large cornice.
The Edwardian influence is easily recognizable. The second floor has oversized keystones. The first and third floor windows have colonettes with heavy bands. On the lower floor, there is a three-part window with an architrave. The front entrance is on a corner. It is flanked by two columns and topped with a balustraded balcony.
Another good example of the style is St. Charles Court at 30 Charles Street East, built in 1915 and historically designated:
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Mustapha
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A handsome property. That private driveway adds much to the desirability. Thanks for going there and taking a Now picture, Ex-Montreal Girl.
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