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I rode a 102 from Brampton Last week and it ran like an expess bus should run.

It cut off 9 minutes off an 19 bus.

No stopping along the route to kill time like the 202. Now to get this bus to run like the 102.

Carry only 9 riders for the trip at 4:30 and not surprise at this.

I saw a photo of a rack on a bus, but that bus was missing it when I rode it on Thursday. The bracket was there.

Saw a 19B leaving Sq One going north with next to no riders on it.
 
New routes always have poor ridership at the beginning. I remember riding the 24 from Square One and the bus was almost empty. And now look at the 110.

The 19B replaced the 67 which always did leave Square One almost empty in the afternoon but came back not so empty.
 
New routes always have poor ridership at the beginning. I remember riding the 24 from Square One and the bus was almost empty. And now look at the 110.

The 19B replaced the 67 which always did leave Square One almost empty in the afternoon but came back not so empty.

Yes new routes take time to build ridership, but 102 will steal riders from 202. I saw riders using 102 to use 19 south of Brittinnia. Still needs a stop at Bristol.

Any 19A or B going north from Sq One will have small number of riders as it will be for the ones who live along it or need to get there in the first place. Coming south, any 19 will pickup all riders going to Sq One and will have higher numbers than the north ones.

19B will pickup a few more riders going south than 67 since it goes into the terminal where 67 was on the street.

24 would have carry more riders if it ran on Burhamthorpe, not the way it did as it would save 10 minute travel time.

A fair number of riders using 110 are only going terminal to terminal as it a faster route than the 26.
 
Mississauga Transit to Demo New Bus Bike Racks on June 18, 2009

Jun 09, 2009

Mississauga Transit is holding a demonstration event at the City Centre Transit Terminal on June 18 to show transit riders how to use the bus bike racks that will be available on all Mississauga Transit buses beginning Monday, June 22, 2009.

"The bus bike racks offer cyclists a convenient and easy way to transport their bicycles while riding the bus," said director of Mississauga Transit Geoff Marinoff. "Funding for the bike racks came from the Metrolinx BikeLinx program. This added feature is part of the ongoing efforts to develop a transit-oriented City – one of the City’s five strategic pillars for change."

Date:
Thursday, June 18, 2009

Time:
6 a.m. to 6 p.m.

Who:
Mississauga Transit representatives

Location:
City Centre Transit Terminal
200 Rathburn Road West
(south side of Rathburn Road – west of Duke of York Boulevard)

Mississauga is Canada's sixth largest city with a population of more than 700,000. With well-established infrastructure and state of the art facilities, the City is considered to be an employer of choice, delivering quality municipal programs and services to its citizens. Mississauga is a dynamic, diverse, and progressive municipality, known for its economic strength and for being Canada's safest city.

BikeLinx Program
The BikeLinx Program is a Metrolinx green initiative, designed to accommodate and encourage trips that combine cycling and public transit. The $5 million program provided funding to municipalities throughout the Greater Toronto Hamilton Area (GTHA) as part of the province of Ontario's financial commitment to the Metrolinx Quick Wins initiatives, confirmed in the March 2008 Budget.

Metrolinx has provided a total of $2.8 million for bike racks on buses and $2.2 million for secure bike parking. Municipalities are already starting to plan for the installation of over 2,300 new racks and numerous bike parking facilities across the region. For more information visit www.metrolinx.com.
 
Mississauga gets off the bus
Transit ridership is down 6 per cent in 2009, forcing the city to consider shelving growth plans

Tess Kalinowski
TRANSPORTATION REPORTER

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Fare hikes and bad weather are partly blamed for ridership drops as large as 25 per cent on some Mississauga bus routes in 2009.


The recession is taking such a toll on transit ridership in Mississauga that the city is considering scaling back an aggressive growth plan designed to lure residents out of their cars and onto the bus.

The drop in ridership – 6 per cent across the system in the first four months of this year – runs counter to a trend in the GTA that has seen transit use continue to grow despite climbing unemployment. If this trend continues for the rest of 2009, Mississauga would lose 1.8 million rides from last year's total of 31.4 million.

Ridership on some routes in industrial areas around Dixie and Tomken Rds. is down as much as 25 per cent, according to a report before the city's budget committee.

The city's commissioner of transportation and works is hopeful that Mississauga ridership will recover through the summer and fall. Meantime, slowing expansion "is the rational thing to do because the economy has slowed," said Martin Powell.

Other factors may have played into the year's slow start, he said, including the TTC's decision to freeze fares while Mississauga raised its own, as well as miserable winter weather that may have discouraged people from taking the bus in January and February.

Mississauga increased cash fares to $3 in January, the second hike in 11 months. The TTC charges $2.75.

The budget report recommends there be no general fare increase next year. But it does propose raising the cost of the U-Pass (for university students) by $15 effective September 2010, and eliminating routes that cost the city more than $4 per ride. It doesn't indicate which routes would be affected.

Powell stressed that rush-hour service improvements will still go ahead in some areas, although the report recommends scaling back the planned addition of 262,500 hours of bus service by 2011 by more than half, to 125,000 hours.

Economic downturns typically reduce transit ridership. But that hasn't been the case this time for the TTC or GO Transit.

TTC officials have been scratching their heads in recent months, trying to determine why Toronto ridership has continued to grow by more than 3 per cent despite the recession. They suspect that at least part of the credit goes to last year's major service expansion.

GO Transit has also continued to expand service across the region.

But in areas such as Mississauga and York Region, where transit officials walk a fine line between maintaining popular services and routes and trying to attract more riders, rising unemployment is presenting a challenge.

Ridership has flatlined this year at York Region Transit, according to general manager Don Gordon. He blames a January strike for a dip that month, but the recession has kept the numbers flat since.

"One of the key metrics we use is ridership growth relative to population growth. Since YRT was established, ridership was outpacing population growth. That changed last year," he said, adding that York is also seeing declining ridership in routes that serve business parks, including some routes that York contracts to the TTC.

York, whose fares are even higher at $3.25, has also expanded this year with extended hours on some routes and additional service to newly developed neighbourhoods.

Source
 
It's not just Mississauga.

Brampton (which posts detailed monthly ridership stats on its website) has also seen lower ridership in the months of January, April, and May in 2009 compared to those same months in 2008.

http://www.brampton.ca/transit/stats.tml

I noticed that TTC ridership growth slowed down significantly in 2008 compared to 2007 and I wouldn't be surprised if it also sees absolute decline in 2009 if Mississauga and Brampton do too.
 
City gets bus cash from Province
By: Joseph Chin
jchin@mississauga.net

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Mississauga Transit is getting $2.8 million from Queen’s Park under the 2009 Ontario bus replacement program

June 11, 2009 03:27 PM -
Mississauga Transit is getting $2.8 million from Queen’s Park under the 2009 Ontario bus replacement program.

The money can be used to replace conventional and specialized transit buses.

“Transit riders in Mississauga will have improved service, including access to newer, more efficient and accessible buses,” said Mississauga-Streetsville MPP Bob Delaney in an announcement. “When we replace aging buses, maintenance costs are reduced, which means better transit service in Mississauga.”

Since 2003, the Ontario government has invested $232 million for public transit in Mississauga.

Source
 
Not to look the gift horse in the mouth, but this seems a bit meagre. Would this be enough to replace five buses, or six?
 
Most of the buses seem to be fairly new anyways, so not many need to be replaced at once.
 
The government has change its policy as how it pays for the bus replacement program last year. All transit systems will not get a lump sum of the government funding for new buses for the year they are purchase. They will pay out this money over the 12 years that the bus is on the road.

This means, cities now have carry the cost of the purchase over the 12 years to cover the government share as extra banking cost.

The government needs to stop these policy as they are getting to be bad as good oH Mikie.
 
Not to look the gift horse in the mouth, but this seems a bit meagre. Would this be enough to replace five buses, or six?

The province is supposed to fund one-third of the cost of replacement buses, though the actual proportion depends on the total replacement buses needing funding provincewide since the funding is capped.

So the $2.8 million is for a total $8.4 million. $8.4 million divided by $420,000 is around 20 replacement buses.


EDIT: it is actually 22 buses according to the budget...
 
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The province is supposed to fund one-third of the cost of replacement buses, though the actual proportion depends on the total replacement buses needing funding provincewide since the funding is capped.

So the $2.8 million is for a total $8.4 million. $8.4 million divided by $420,000 is around 20 replacement buses.


EDIT: it is actually 22 buses according to the budget...

It's less than 1/3 and it spread over 12 years, not the year of the purchase like the pasr.

We have already got 0ur 2009 fleet last fall except for 12 EZ coming in Sept and that more than 20 buses. 39 in total for this year with another 12 EZ been added to the order.

We are getting 57 buses next year. It will include a few Hybrid buses from NFI, but not the 22 Metrolinx were to buy as they will be deisel.
 
Temporary service reductions for several routes: 3, 22, 51, 110
http://www.mississauga.ca/file/COM/InTransit_06JUL2009.pdf

They have the frequencies listed backwards though, I think.

It is disapointing for sure, but I'm just glad they did reduce service for 5 Dixie (routes 5 and 51 were hardest hit by the recession) since it is/was extremely overcrowded (even more overcrowded than the 19, imo).
 
Planned service cuts for 2010:

26 Burnhamthorpe - late evening (i.e. after 10pm) frequency reduced to 19 minutes
31 Folkway - late evening frequency reduced to 60 minutes
33 Erin Centre Loop - reduced service
44 Mississauga Rd - late evening frequency reduced to 45 minutes
62 Cookville Shuttle-Webb - canceled

Route 25 will not be canceled.
 
Next open house for the Hurontario Corridor is on or about Dec 9. LRT is the recommendation subject to Metrolinx approval.

Route 8 change will take place in Dec with 8 doing Port Credit to Sq One. Route 14 will replace 8 for rest of 8 route as well 37A.

MT is $8m short in revenue and the $4m in fuel saving will be use to off set some of the lost.

There was a recommendation for cutting some service in 2010 and increase fares due to drop in ridership and revenue, but council is not going to support it.

20,000 service hours been added in 2010 and will be use for peak service. Need more than that to start dealing with off peak for 7 days of the week. Time for 15-30 service 7 days a week.

Legal department has been instructed to proceed in buying land off Mississauga Rd for the new satellite garage complex.

Ratburn ROW construction starts next year.

The 403 BRT will start service in the spring of 2013 and not surprise. Construction starts next spring.

The design of the Kipling new terminal has been rejected 2th by the design review panel and schedule to be review again this fall.

2010 buses have been order without going to council and we are getting ""HELL"" Orion VII Hybirds
 
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