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Has the Monorail's Future Finally Arrived?


MAY 23, 2011

By PAULO TREVISANI

Read More: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703567404576292914218923744.html


The train of the future may be turning a corner—but you'll have to look up to see it. Long hailed as a model for future public-transportation systems, monorails in reality have been largely written off as theme-park attractions—too slow and too small to serve as urban transit systems. Now the elevated single-track trains are getting a fresh look as big cities in emerging economies seek out quick, low-cost solutions to mobility bottlenecks.

- These efforts, some say, may test whether monorail technology can live down its reputation and win over critics, who remain skeptical that monorails are suitable for urban mass transit. "Monorail is an open-ended question", says George Haikalis, who runs the Institute for Rational Urban Mobility, a New York-based nonprofit focused on transportation reform. So far, he says, "the evidence is that it is not a substitute for conventional railroad," at least when it comes to carrying large numbers of passengers.

- Despite Japan's experience, a perception has persisted that monorail is unproven in a mass-transit setting, says Kim Pedersen, who heads the Monorail Society, an organization that gathers data and promotes use of the technology. Also stalling monorail's growth have been concerns about evacuating stranded passengers from overhead trains and a belief that elevated structures spoil urban landscapes.

- "São Paulo is desperate for mobility", says Sérgio Avelleda, chairman of state transportation agency Cia. do Metropolitano de São Paulo—Metrô. He says monorail eliminates the extra work and costs involved in digging tunnels. The elevated track, using prefabricated concrete, can run over the center of existing avenues or boulevards, reducing expropriation costs. He also says monorail is the least intrusive and safest option for the region's level of demand.

- Monorail makers such as Bombardier and the industry's leader, Japan's Hitachi Ltd., say today's monorails are quieter and have less vibration than earlier models. Some of the new trains also are lighter, meaning elevated structures don't have to be as bulky and block less natural light than previous designs. And the São Paulo system will be built with evacuation walks between tracks, says Bombardier.

- In the end, cost may be a leading factor in favor of monorail, some in the industry say. Eran Gartner, president of the transportation division of Bombardier, which also is a major provider of other train systems, says subways can cost roughly 50% more than monorails to build, depending on location.

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Those who are open minded to monorails could have written that WSJ article years, if not decades ago. Affordable, grade separated transit with a relatively small footprint - especially compared to elevated conventional rail. Unfortunately, I think we need to see a modern mass transit monorail in North America or Europe before we accept it as a RT solution.
 
Tuesday, June 7 2011, 10 PM

High-Speed Monorail Tram to Appear in Vladivostok in Future

While the first trolleybus will run to Sadgorod in autumn
VLADIVOSTOK, June 7, vladivostoktimes.com “The old trams remain in Vladivostok to keep the city color however the high-speed light rail is our future,” Igor PUSHKAREV, the Mayor of Vladivostok, said during “Straight Line,” RIA PrimaMedia reports.
“We are planning to remain the trams in Vladivostok but they will serve special lines – from Balyaeva to Sakhalinskaya and from Center to Lugovaya. I have to admit that we only shall be able to put into operation the sector along Korabelnaya Naberezhnaya,” he said.
The Mayor reminded about the traffic jams that used to appear on Svetlanskaya when the trams ran the route.
“Not the underground railway but monorail is prospective public transport for our city. Siemens Company that is developing the light rails made us offer to purchase some new generation trams,” Igor PUSHKAREV noted.



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That article mentions high-speed light rail being the future, and then talks monorail prospects, then Siemens developing new generation trams. Are they building all three?
 
Monorail has consistently shown itself to be safe, reliable, quiet, comfortable, and both faster to build and cheaper than either elevated LRT or subway as only having one rail line, no overhead wires and most importantly most of the infrastructure is built off site.
The switching problems is a pure myth and is a none issue with modern monorails and it has subway. The new 100km monorail system now beginning construction in Sao Paulo is being built for 47,000 pphpd capacity.
The main reason why some like to discard it {and usually succeed due to the LRT lobby}is the fact that the systems are not compatible. While that is true, but major manufacturers are trying to address that, how it is a problem in Toronto is anyone's guess. Toronto only has one supplier for all it's rail systems..........Bombardier. Any system ever built with any fed/prov funds will always go to Bombardier, no questions asked. Metrolinx may go thru the public relations exercise of a "bidding process" but everyone, including competitors, know who will get the contract. Siemens could offer a buy one get one free subway sale it wouldn't make a hoot of difference.
This is why I just cannot see the aversion to monorail. It would, however, require Toronto to think creatively and I guess that's the problem and one of the primary reasons why rapid/mass transit expansion is near non-existent in Toronto.
The Sheppard is already dead and all Toronto will get is 28km of rapid transit expansion this decade. This meager attempt will only put Toronto even further behind in it's need for a truly massive upgrade and expansion of it's system.
 
That article mentions high-speed light rail being the future, and then talks monorail prospects, then Siemens developing new generation trams. Are they building all three?

I am going to take a stab and say something was lost in the translation.
 
I think the main reason monorail hasn't taken off is it has to be elevated for the whole line. That means it will be expensive to run it out to the suburbs. Subways and elevated conventional rail systems may be more expensive and less flexible in the tight urban areas, but they can become surface rail systems as soon as they leave the congested urban core. This means the overall cost of a monorail system will be higher, in most cases, particularly if you're thinking about future expansions into outlying areas. A monorail may make sense for a system that loops around a constrained urban core, but then you still need to buy regular rail vehicles for the branch lines. Therefore the set of conditions that favour monorail as a financial prudent option is very narrow.
 
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I think the main reason monorail hasn't taken off is it has to be elevated for the whole line. That means it will be expensive to run it out to the suburbs. Subways and elevated conventional rail systems may be more expensive and less flexible in the tight urban areas, but they can become surface rail systems as soon as they leave the congested urban core. This means the overall cost of a monorail system will be higher, in most cases, particularly if you're thinking about future expansions into outlying areas. A monorail may make sense for a system that loops around a constrained urban core, but then you still need to buy regular rail vehicles for the branch lines. Therefore the set of conditions that favour monorail as a financial prudent option is very narrow.

There isn't really anything stopping a monorail from running in a tunnel or close to at-grade. It just runs most often in an elevated setup because that's how it's most convenient. All you need for a monorail to run at-grade is a slight trench in the guideway to accomodate for the undercarriage.
 
People in North America don't like monorail because we've all seen a certain episode of the Simpsons.
 
People in North America don't like monorail because we've all seen a certain episode of the Simpsons.

I think this is actually very true. I think very few people can hear the word "monorail" without thinking "monorail... monorail...monorail!"
 
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Many still think monorail is for zoos, airports or amusement parks which of course is ridiculous. Tell that to the Japanese, Brazilians, Chinese, Indians, Malays, Germans, or Russians. Then again what do the citizens of Tokyo, Moscow, or Sao Paulo know about transit?
Heaven knows they are all soooooooo jealous of the TTC.
Monorail costs the same as subway underground but is particularily cheaper than elevated LRT or subway. As for this idea that is can't run at grade I don't know where that came from. Monorails are CHEAPER to build than either at grade subway or LRT. Why? Just because they are elevated doesn't mean they have to be 10 metres high. An elevation of just one metre means that all they need is stick one metre pillions in the ground but the rest is built much much cheaper off site and then placed on the pillions.
The whole idea of monorails is that they are manufactured as opposed to being built ground up along the whole route. Its akin to having your new car delivered to your house or building your car individually at your house.
Forward thinking cities are embarasing monorails which is why Toronto won't.
Toronto's meager little attempt at rapid transit expansion is monumental only by Toronto standards. It would be considered a lost decade by any other large world city.
$8.2 billion for a little 20km line............thank god the rest of the planet doesn't work on Toronto budgets or nothing would ever get built.
Remember TC which wanted to upgrade the existing SRT to handle MK11 and increase capacity which stated would cost $1.2 billion yet somehow in ultra low cost real estate Vancouver they are building a brand new 11km SkyTrain line for $1.4 billion.
Look at the CTrain............the now under construction of the new West totally grade separated 6km line is costing $800 million although wages are so very low in Calgary.
Although it is fashionable in Toronto to constantly blame the feds or Queen's Park the reality is that Toronto with it's myopic views, inertia, and union-only mentality for construction projects is what is really holding the city back.
 
Many still think monorail is for zoos, airports or amusement parks which of course is ridiculous. Tell that to the Japanese, Brazilians, Chinese, Indians, Malays, Germans, or Russians. Then again what do the citizens of Tokyo, Moscow, or Sao Paulo know about transit?
Heaven knows they are all soooooooo jealous of the TTC.
Monorail costs the same as subway underground but is particularily cheaper than elevated LRT or subway. As for this idea that is can't run at grade I don't know where that came from. Monorails are CHEAPER to build than either at grade subway or LRT. Why? Just because they are elevated doesn't mean they have to be 10 metres high. An elevation of just one metre means that all they need is stick one metre pillions in the ground but the rest is built much much cheaper off site and then placed on the pillions.
The whole idea of monorails is that they are manufactured as opposed to being built ground up along the whole route. Its akin to having your new car delivered to your house or building your car individually at your house.
Forward thinking cities are embarasing monorails which is why Toronto won't.
Toronto's meager little attempt at rapid transit expansion is monumental only by Toronto standards. It would be considered a lost decade by any other large world city.
$8.2 billion for a little 20km line............thank god the rest of the planet doesn't work on Toronto budgets or nothing would ever get built.
Remember TC which wanted to upgrade the existing SRT to handle MK11 and increase capacity which stated would cost $1.2 billion yet somehow in ultra low cost real estate Vancouver they are building a brand new 11km SkyTrain line for $1.4 billion.
Look at the CTrain............the now under construction of the new West totally grade separated 6km line is costing $800 million although wages are so very low in Calgary.
Although it is fashionable in Toronto to constantly blame the feds or Queen's Park the reality is that Toronto with it's myopic views, inertia, and union-only mentality for construction projects is what is really holding the city back.
 
$8.2 billion for a little 20km line............thank god the rest of the planet doesn't work on Toronto budgets or nothing would ever get built.

I'm sure you are well aware that the majority of the cost for this "little 20km line" if for the original planned tunneled portion from west of Keele to west of Leslie.

No matter what glories you attribute to monorail, this section is going underground - the street is too narrow and too crowded. There is no room for even your smaller monorail pylons and the myopic citizens of Toronto will never agree to an elevated transit line through that section of the city (to say nothing of roller coaster ride they'd get between Bathurst and Avenue Rd).

So regardless of what ends up happening east of Leslie, the tunneled portion will cost an arm and a leg whether it is LRT, monorail or subway because it is being tunneled under a well developed urban environment. To suggest Eglinton could be built for pennies on the dollar if only we embraced monorail is a non-starter.
 

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