In the end, I guess we'll just have to wait and see if what the Eglinton line looks like ends up looking like a subway or not. Personally, I'd rather just go for the known factor. We're building a subway-sized tunnel from Keele to Laird, right? So why not just, I dunno, run a SUBWAY through it? Honestly the rest of the line you may as well just run buses there. That's what Torontonians are used to.
Secondly, I do see the rationale for comparing Montreal and Toronto. If Montreal is even close to Toronto in terms of subway length or usage, something is seriously WRONG. It's just intuitive. If we're not building subways, we're stagnating. Then people will point out that we are indeed building subways--to Vaughan and Richmond Hill. Because, you know, 905ers are people too. Call me old-fashioned but I'd rather the subway network conecentrate on the core first. DRL should be FIRST priority, no ifs, ands or buts. Not Spadina. Not Yonge. Not Eglinton. Not even my perennial favourites, Sheppard and Danforth to STC. Once the DRL is built and how it effects travel patterns, then we can more accurately plan out the rest of the system. The DRL would be like a second backbone, for both the BD and YUS lines.
Exactly.
Its not a competition but a wake up call.
I lived there and
-the Orange loop will happen by 2020.
-The blue to Pie-IX will happen by 2016 (Montreal transit plan 2008)
-2 weeks ago Transport minister said she was in favor for the yellow line extension in Longueuil.
If all cities work together this will only make it a done deal by 2020.
Again, I lived there until September 2008
Quebec is BROKE. Montreal is BROKE. Yet they build subways for half the price and will expend by 33%. About the density, Montreal is higher because of Plateau Mont-Royal who has the highest neighbourhood density in Canada but Toronto is not far behind.
I'm not looking for replies saying Its just was a little contest between both cities.
Like I said many time, this wake up call his to question our politician decisions and their motives.
I'm glad that Metrolinx seems to be pushing for ICTS for Eglinton. I don't even care if its LRT as long it doesn't stop at red lights, which the reports shows that it will outside the tunnel.
I like Trandit city except Sheppard east that should have been HRT to either STC or the future RT Station on Sheppard.
Transit City has NOTHING to resolve downtown transit issues or to help reduce pressure from the Yonge line.
What about King and Queen Streetcars? They need to be improved as well.
DRL should have been the very first thing on the list.
But for political reasons, the mayor pushed Transit City to get Scarborough,North York and Etobicoke's votes. You don't go to city hall with Old Toronto votes alone.
Transit City will attract aditionnal commuters to transit but they will all use the Yonge line (most of them) that is already overcrowded.
So Toronto is like the 5th city in North America.
TTC the 3rd Transit in North America.
Ontario is richer than Quebec.
Toronto has more tax payers, higher taxes and richer than Montreal.
and the best they can do is spend 10 billions for 10 extra km/h on average?
DRL not a short term priority?
Sheppard extension too expensive?(How many time do I need to write the blue line success story?) It was a subway to nowhere and it became a success because it was completed in 88 I think.
Didn't I proved with the stats from Chicago Transit that Sheppard had more ridership than 4 of Chicago's subways.
Sheppard is beating lines that have 20 stations and are 20 KM long and that are all linked directly to downtown Loop. Not bad for an incomplete line of 5 KM and 5 stations...not going Downtown.
and people believes and are defending the ''HRT standards by the TTC'' justifying the Sheppard east Subway kill. Funny that those standards don't apply to the York extension to Richmond Hill... and they don't apply it for DRL.
I made this thread so you would realise something is wrong at city hall. It's not about money but spending priorities and political agenda.
Did I said that I'm tired of taking the 196B Rocket between Downsview and Sheppard-Yonge?
Not much of a rocket when they're trapped in road congestions. Why not just expend the Sheppard line to Downview and Even Jane?
Only thing we can do?
VOTE