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constance_chlore
Active Member
Wild that Janz dissented more than Cartmell!
kcantor
Senior Member
Sometimes Janz strikes me as “an angry young man” looking to disagree with everyone, sometimes just for the sake of disagreeing.
wormwood
Active Member
Perfect summary
David A
Senior Member
Well, he has already been an elected official now for a decade and a half, so not sure if young still applies, but I suppose it depends on your perspective. He is also younger than me.
However, I do agree about the angry part. He has a populist style which seems similar to that of those on the right that try to get people stirred up about things and seems to be constantly looking for a cause to lead or benefit from.
policyenthusiast
Senior Member
IMO combative can be a positive trait if you have the knowledge needed to back it up, which Janz often does. There are some of his proposals which are nonsensical to me (i.e mandating AirBNB owners be on-premises at all times when operating the rental), but he's never struck me as the "taking my ball and going home" type (looking at you, Jennifer Rice), but rather a persistent advocate for alternative solutions.
All that being said, his voice drives me nuts.
All that being said, his voice drives me nuts.
The_Cat
Senior Member
Michael Janz tried all sorts of stunts in the early part of his term.
policyenthusiast
Senior Member
Somewhat interesting fact about Edmonton's "version" of specifics under the MGA replaces section 244 with:
Financial shortfall
244 The City may project an operating deficit but the budget for the following year must provide for expenditures to cover the deficit over the next 3 years.
So would continued budget deficits contravene the City Charter?
Financial shortfall
244 The City may project an operating deficit but the budget for the following year must provide for expenditures to cover the deficit over the next 3 years.
So would continued budget deficits contravene the City Charter?
CplKlinger
Senior Member
Analysis: Cartmell's fundraising has significant crossover with UCP, while Knack has support from city staff
There is more than $400K of Cartmell's funding from donors who have also given to the UCP; Knack has many donors in city administration.
edmontonjournal.com
"And, though there is a limit of $5,000 per donor, there are individuals who were involved in multiple donations through their companies. Developer Paul Allard donated $5,000 on his own and another $5,000 through Alberta 806837, a numbered company with him as the sole director. There is $5,000 more in donations from 23rd Avenue, a company owned by Allard and Brad Clough, and another $5,000 from 7 Oaks, owned by Allard, Clough and developer Chris Nicholas.
HV Developments, owned by Allard, Clough and Nicholas, gave another $5,000. And there’s $5,000 from Keswick Landing, owned by Clough and Allard. Clough also gave $5,000 on his own. Nicholas gave $1,500. Allard gave money to the UCP in 2019, 2020, 2022 and 2023. Clough also donated to the UCP in each of those four years. Nicholas supported the UCP in 2020.
Just three donors were responsible for $36,500 in donations to the Cartmell campaign. And it shows how “just 20” 2023 UCP donors can actually have an outsized impact on the bottom line.
Cameron Development Corporation gave $1,500 to Cartmell, but founder Javaid Naqvi is a UCP donor and is the founder of the company. He also gave Cartmell a $5,000 personal donation. Cameron Naqvi, the company’s president, gave Cartmell $5,000. Tony Rota, also in the company’s executive, gave $5,000.
Urbanlife Estates, owned by past UCP donor James Webb, gave $5,000. Same goes for Ken-Pat Holdings, which also has Webb at the head. And Webb gave a $5,000 personal donation. One donor — $15,000. Webb is a former director on the board of the Edmonton Chamber of Commerce.
Cartmell’s list has numerous developers and homebuilders on it, and it also has a donation from BILD Edmonton Metro, the group which represents developers and builders in the city. BILD is not affiliated with the UCP. Developers were not happy with some major decisions from this past council, including its decision to continue on its policy of “substantial completion,” which could severely limit further subdivisions in south Edmonton, and the vote not to subsidize the conversions of vacant Downtown office buildings to residential towers. Cartmell was on the losing side of those votes.
There are other significant UCP donors on the Cartmell list, including former Oilers shareholder Cal Nichols ($5,000) and ex-Oilers president Patrick LaForge."
And as I mentioned previously, Westrich donated at least $10,150 through three different shell companies (Westrich Management ($5,000), Westrich Construction Alberta ($5,000), and Westrich Pacific ($150). Do you know what policies of his Westrich supports, @IanO? Are they against substantial completion, or is it something else? Not asking to start anything, I'm really just wondering.
The_Cat
Senior Member
Keith Gerein: This has been Edmonton's infill election, but we're getting only one side of the story
Edmonton Neighbourhoods United has put infill front and centre in the civic election race, but at the expense of the bigger picture of affordability and sustainability
edmontonjournal.com
TAS
Senior Member
Analysis: Cartmell's fundraising has significant crossover with UCP, while Knack has support from city staff
There is more than $400K of Cartmell's funding from donors who have also given to the UCP; Knack has many donors in city administration.
"And, though there is a limit of $5,000 per donor, there are individuals who were involved in multiple donations through their companies. Developer Paul Allard donated $5,000 on his own and another $5,000 through Alberta 806837, a numbered company with him as the sole director. There is $5,000 more in donations from 23rd Avenue, a company owned by Allard and Brad Clough, and another $5,000 from 7 Oaks, owned by Allard, Clough and developer Chris Nicholas.
HV Developments, owned by Allard, Clough and Nicholas, gave another $5,000. And there’s $5,000 from Keswick Landing, owned by Clough and Allard. Clough also gave $5,000 on his own. Nicholas gave $1,500. Allard gave money to the UCP in 2019, 2020, 2022 and 2023. Clough also donated to the UCP in each of those four years. Nicholas supported the UCP in 2020.
Just three donors were responsible for $36,500 in donations to the Cartmell campaign. And it shows how “just 20” 2023 UCP donors can actually have an outsized impact on the bottom line.
Cameron Development Corporation gave $1,500 to Cartmell, but founder Javaid Naqvi is a UCP donor and is the founder of the company. He also gave Cartmell a $5,000 personal donation. Cameron Naqvi, the company’s president, gave Cartmell $5,000. Tony Rota, also in the company’s executive, gave $5,000.
Urbanlife Estates, owned by past UCP donor James Webb, gave $5,000. Same goes for Ken-Pat Holdings, which also has Webb at the head. And Webb gave a $5,000 personal donation. One donor — $15,000. Webb is a former director on the board of the Edmonton Chamber of Commerce.
Cartmell’s list has numerous developers and homebuilders on it, and it also has a donation from BILD Edmonton Metro, the group which represents developers and builders in the city. BILD is not affiliated with the UCP. Developers were not happy with some major decisions from this past council, including its decision to continue on its policy of “substantial completion,” which could severely limit further subdivisions in south Edmonton, and the vote not to subsidize the conversions of vacant Downtown office buildings to residential towers. Cartmell was on the losing side of those votes.
There are other significant UCP donors on the Cartmell list, including former Oilers shareholder Cal Nichols ($5,000) and ex-Oilers president Patrick LaForge."
And as I mentioned previously, Westrich donated at least $10,150 through three different shell companies (Westrich Management ($5,000), Westrich Construction Alberta ($5,000), and Westrich Pacific ($150). Do you know what policies of his Westrich supports, @IanO? Are they against substantial completion, or is it something else? Not asking to start anything, I'm really just wondering.
Definitely seeing that money come into play lately with a full-on tv and media blitz.
BASE
Active Member
The fun thing about muni politics is that it doesn't seem so pre-determined as polling seems to indicate at the federal and maybe provincial levels. It's a matter of resources, unpredictable turnout and the like but it's intriguing to see so much uncertainty. Seems like it may play out as the Sohi coalition rallying around Knack and some vote splitting on the center/center-right. If it were just a 2 horse race between Cartmell & Knack then I suspect Cartmell could have a shot but I guess we will see. There may be enough discontent out there around infill and increased taxes that Cartmell can overcome the links folks are making to UCP.
CplKlinger
Senior Member
Keith Gerein: This has been Edmonton's infill election, but we're getting only one side of the story
Edmonton Neighbourhoods United has put infill front and centre in the civic election race, but at the expense of the bigger picture of affordability and sustainability
edmontonjournal.com
"Cartmell is calling for the creation of neigbourhood-based “citizen action groups” which would work directly with city administration on planning. And he wants a new process in which each infill application “should come with a summary of the cumulative effect of past infill projects on the neighborhood." Oh goodness, this would put a dent in our housing starts.
policyenthusiast
Senior Member
Cartmell calls on the creation of "Red Tape Generators"Keith Gerein: This has been Edmonton's infill election, but we're getting only one side of the story
Edmonton Neighbourhoods United has put infill front and centre in the civic election race, but at the expense of the bigger picture of affordability and sustainability
"Cartmell is calling for the creation of neigbourhood-based “citizen action groups” which would work directly with city administration on planning. And he wants a new process in which each infill application “should come with a summary of the cumulative effect of past infill projects on the neighborhood." Oh goodness, this would put a dent in our housing starts.
trevorhayden
Active Member
His developer puppet masters don't care because they all build in the wild west, aka the suburbs. In fact, they may support because it shifts demand into their pocketbooks.Keith Gerein: This has been Edmonton's infill election, but we're getting only one side of the story
Edmonton Neighbourhoods United has put infill front and centre in the civic election race, but at the expense of the bigger picture of affordability and sustainability
"Cartmell is calling for the creation of neigbourhood-based “citizen action groups” which would work directly with city administration on planning. And he wants a new process in which each infill application “should come with a summary of the cumulative effect of past infill projects on the neighborhood." Oh goodness, this would put a dent in our housing starts.