[ShonTron]

But WILL our leaders learn? Have they even learned from the 1st wave?

Here, we're getting normally great progressive councillors who with one exception, have been snarkily dismissing urbanists, safety advocates, and downtown residents by saying we have to defer to the Medical Officer of Health's opinion and that's that, shut up. But try to practice safe social distancing at Loblaws at Carlton and Church with the endless sidewalk closure on the northeast corner for condo construction, the sidewalk pinches from fencing, and then lining up on a congested sidewalk as others - including the idiot food bike couriers - pass by.

Only Councillor Wong-Tam gets it.

 

[gabe]

How many pandemic of a similar nature originated from india in the past 20 years...


Can we just get our heads out of pre covid overly pc behinds and look at some harsh truths here.

Every expert predicting china as a source a pandemic is not racism..its just science.

So after this is over we need to do better pandemic planning but also take steps to ensure that they are less chances of viruses becoming pandemics.

Exactly, every virologists and scientist on the planet is pointing fingers at China.

How China's 'Bat Woman' Hunted Down Viruses from SARS to the New Coronavirus

Wuhan-based virologist Shi Zhengli has identified dozens of deadly SARS-like viruses in bat caves, and she warns there are more out there

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[SunriseChampion]

When I said "no definitive conclusion where this virus came from at all" it was in understanding it was from China, but with no real definitive "patient zero". "Some people in China do eat bats and other animals that are known to spread viruses" is a really huge generalization which is still not evidence that here. The lab article is more of a fantasy from people who watched a Hollywood movie than something we know is actually possible.

I think the point is that those wet markets are a breeding ground for all manner of virus and bacteria and are unhygienic antiquated relics of mediaeval times.
I eat game too, just not freshly dead from some market stall with the blood still dripping off it.

 

[gabe]

Here, we're getting normally great progressive councillors who with one exception, have been snarkily dismissing urbanists, safety advocates, and downtown residents by saying we have to defer to the Medical Officer of Health's opinion and that's that, shut up. But try to practice safe social distancing at Loblaws at Carlton and Church with the endless sidewalk closure on the northeast corner for condo construction, the sidewalk pinches from fencing, and then lining up on a congested sidewalk as others - including the idiot food bike couriers - pass by.

Only Councillor Wong-Tam gets it.

Yep. The roads are empty, wider sidewalks need to happen ASP. People need to get food.

 

[Admiral Beez]

Think about it... SARS, Swine Flu, Coronavirus all originated in wet markets. If they cannot adhere to hygiene and safety standards then they should be banned

The rest of us aren’t much better. Perhaps the vegans have won this round?

 

[SunriseChampion]

The rest of us aren’t much better. Perhaps the vegans have won thst round?

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I don't know....let's ask PETA where botulinum toxin comes from.

 

[PinkLucy]

Here's a fun little animation. https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1896744/

 

[W. K. Lis]

Here's a fun little animation. https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1896744/

Is "firearms" split?

 

[Admiral Beez]

Is "firearms" split?

I don’t see firearms, outside of that included in suicides.

 

[W. K. Lis]

US government experiments with simulations to show the coronavirus can 'quickly' be destroyed by SUNLIGHT, but notes the results are yet to be proven

From link.

Experiments conducted by the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) show the coronavirus can be 'quickly' destroyed by sunlight.

Yahoo News obtained a briefing that suggests the virus cannot survive in high temperatures and humidity on surfaces or in a droplet of saliva – giving the public hope that the end could be just around the corner as summer weather approaches for parts of the world.

The DHS found that simulated sunlight 'rapidly killed the virus in aerosols,' while without that treatment, 'no significant loss of virus was detected in 60 minutes.'

However, the unpublished documents also state that the results have yet to be proven nor does this not mean the world will see a drop in new cases if they are.

A DHS spokesperson told DailyMail.com in an email: 'The department is dedicated to the fight against COVID-19, and the health and safety of the American people is its top priority. As policy, the department does not comment on allegedly leaked documents.

'It would be irresponsible to speculate, draw conclusions, or to inadvertently try to influence the public based upon a document that has not yet been peer-reviewed or subjected to the rigorous scientific validation approach.'

The idea that sunlight could be the archenemies of the coronavirus has been floating around the web for quite some time.

A post on Facebook with the heading 'GOODBYE CORONA VIRUS' details a daily regimen to cure the disease – and exposure to sunlight is on the list.

Many may partake in the routine with hope it actually works, but the US Centers for Disease Control Prevention (CDC) has stated there is now specific treatment or regimen for COVID-19 that is approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

The results shown in documents are from the DHS science and technology directorate and includes experiments conducted by the National Biodefense Analysis and Countermeasures Center that was started to address biological threats following the 9/11 terrorist attacks to address biological threats.

Many infectious disease seem to arrive in the colder months and disappear once summer rolls in including the flu and measles, which has led experts to learn if the same applies to the current coronavirus sweeping the globe.

Because COVID-19 is still new to the world, experts have noted that there is not enough data to show how the virus changes with seasons.

However, a separate study looked at the cases in 100 Chinese cities last month and found transmission rates fell as the weather grew warmer or more humid.

Public experts and the study conducted in China suggests the viruses will not thrive in warmer temperatures, heat and humidity - but these factors will not stop it in its tracks.

Since COVID-19 emerged in China in December, the virus has spread like wildfire to more than 350,000 people worldwide amid cold weather – there are currently more than 2 million cases and over 137,00 deaths reported around the globe.

In China, the outbreak reached its peak in February with more than 15,000 cases diagnosed in a single day.

But it's officially spring there now, and with the departure of winter has come a precipitous fall of cases in China.

Scientists from MIT have also found that the coronavirus appears to loose spread slower in warmer countries.

The team found that several countries 'such as Australia, UAE, Qatar, Singapore, Bahrain, Qatar and Taiwan have performed extensive testing per capita and the number of positive 2019-nCoV cases per capita are lower in these countries compared to several European countries and the US,' reads the analysis published on March 19.

Qasim Bukhari, a computational scientist at MIT and a co-author of the analysis told Yahoo News that since publishing their work, the number of cases spreading in certain countries support their findings.

'There are more than 5,000 cases in Pakistan right now,' he said.

'But the increase is not as rapid as you see in other countries.'

MIT found several countries 'such as Australia, UAE, Qatar, Singapore, Bahrain, Qatar and Taiwan have performed extensive testing per capita and the number of positive 2019-nCoV cases per capita are lower in these countries compared to several European countries and the US

 

[PinkLucy]

I saw Karen on Facebook say the same thing. The virus is doing quite well in sunny states like Florida.

 

[SunriseChampion]

The guns have largely been put down in the US during the plague. Should explain that bit.

 

[SunriseChampion]

Oh, Karen.

 

[PinkLucy]

A place that used to be my regular walking route is now blocked off by large concrete blocks. Today I saw about a dozen people climbing over those blocks, a couple with bikes. https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/04...s-city-reports-continued-troubling-behaviour/

 

[TheKingEast]

It's scary how they're trying so hard to grasp at anything that could be the "cure" or help kill the virus....and failing. Very scary because it tells me how little know about the virus. It's still relatively new.