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Admiral Beez said:
I'm not interested in visiting the USA until Covid is well and truly under control, no matter what the incompetents at the CDC say.

If only the CDC had been doing its job, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cdc-response-speci-idUSKBN29R1E7
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Don't forget the Trump budget cuts to the CDC and science in general.

Massive cuts to science and medicine in Trump budget (2017)​

From link.

The budget proposed by United States President Donald Trump calls for “massive cuts” to spending on medical and scientific research, public health and disease-prevention programs, and health insurance for low-income Americans and their children. It has drawn intense criticism from many corners, including scientists, physicians and politicians from both the Democratic and Republican parties. The only good thing about this “horror” of a budget, according to one pundit, is that it will likely get “eviscerated in Congress.”

Under the proposed budget, formally delivered to Congress yesterday, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would see its annual budget shrink 18% from $31.8 billion to $26 billion. This includes cuts to the National Cancer Institute ($1 billion), National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute ($575 million), and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases ($838 million).

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) would lose 17% of its budget, a cut of $1.2 billion. This news prompted former CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden to take to Twitter and rebuke this “assault on science” that will “devastate” programs that protect Americans from many deadly conditions, including diabetes, heart attacks and strokes. He noted that the cuts would give the CDC its lowest budget in 20 years and lead to an increase in illness and deaths.

Others cuts include $776 million to the National Science Foundation, a funder of scientific research, and a 31% reduction in funding for the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), which includes a $129-million cut to the enforcement of programs that support clean air and water. According to Erik Olson, director of public health for the Natural Resources Defense Council, the proposed cuts would be a “machete chop to most of the major body parts at EPA” and would directly affect public health....
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gabe said:
I'm glad i rejected the mixing and waited and got my second Moderna shot.

globalnews.ca

Thinking of travelling? Here’s where mixed COVID-19 vaccines aren’t accepted - National | Globalnews.ca

As the world reopens, not all are recognizing a mix of vaccines from different makers as fully vaccinated,
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca
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So you're planning to travel over the next little while? Or is this just a checklist item?

It will all get straightened out eventually, making the point moot. In the meantime, it's just another silly justification for people putting their lives and those of their loved ones at risk by shopping around.
 
Admiral Beez said:
I'm glad my family all got two Moderna shots. I never understood peoples' reluctance to take it over Pfizer.

observer.com

Moderna Vaccine Is Better Than Pfizer-BioNTech at Tackling Delta Variant, US Study Found

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine’s efficacy has dropped to 42 percent from 76 percent since the Delta variant took hold.
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For those who only look at % effectiveness, the most important point is:

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COVID-19 Vaccines While Pregnant or Breastfeeding​

From link.What You Need to Know
  • COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for all people 12 years and older, including people who are pregnant, breastfeeding, trying to get pregnant now, or might become pregnant in the future.
  • Evidence about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy has been growing. These data suggest that the benefits of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine outweigh any known or potential risks of vaccination during pregnancy.
  • There is currently no evidence that any vaccines, including COVID-19 vaccines, cause fertility problems in women or men.

Pregnant and Recently Pregnant People Are at Increased Risk for Severe Illness from COVID-19​


Although the overall risk of severe illness is low, pregnant and recently pregnant people are at an increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19 when compared with non-pregnant people. Severe illness includes illness that requires hospitalization, intensive care, need for a ventilator or special equipment to breathe, or illness that results in death. Additionally, pregnant people with COVID-19 are at increased risk of preterm birth and might be at increased risk of other adverse pregnancy outcomes, compared with pregnant women without COVID-19.

Data about the Safety and Effectiveness of COVID-19 Vaccination during Pregnancy​


Evidence about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy, although limited, has been growing. These data suggest that the benefits of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine outweigh any known or potential risks of vaccination during pregnancy.


  • No safety concerns were found in animal studies: Studies in animals receiving a Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, or Johnson & Johnson (J&J)/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine before or during pregnancy found no safety concerns in pregnant animals or their babies.
  • No adverse pregnancy-related outcomes occurred in previous clinical trials that used the same vaccine platform as the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine: Vaccines that use the same viral vector have been given to pregnant people in all trimesters of pregnancy, including in a large-scale Ebola vaccination trial. No adverse pregnancy-related outcomes, including adverse outcomes affecting the baby, were associated with vaccination in these trials. Learn more about how viral vector vaccines work.
  • COVID-19 vaccines do not cause infection, including in pregnant people or their babies: None of the COVID-19 vaccines contain the live virus that causes COVID-19 so a COVID-19 vaccine cannot make anyone sick with COVID-19, including pregnant people or their babies.
  • Early data on the safety of receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine (Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech) during pregnancy are reassuring:
    • CDC released the first U.S. data on the safety of receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine during pregnancy. The report analyzed data from three safety monitoring systems in place to gather information about COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy. These early data did not find any safety concerns for pregnant people who were vaccinated or their babies.1
    • Another report looked at pregnant people enrolled in the v-safe pregnancy registry who were vaccinated before 20 weeks of pregnancy. Scientists did not find an increased risk for miscarriage among people who received an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine during pregnancy.2
    • Many pregnancies reported in these safety monitoring systems are ongoing. CDC will continue to follow people vaccinated during all trimesters of pregnancy to better understand effects on pregnancy and babies.
  • Early data suggest receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine during pregnancy reduces the risk for infection: A recent study from Israel compared pregnant people who received an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine with those who did not. Scientists found that vaccination lowered the risk of infection from the virus that causes COVID-19.3
  • Vaccination of pregnant people builds antibodies that might protect their baby: When pregnant people receive an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine during pregnancy, their bodies build antibodies against COVID-19, similar to non-pregnant people. Antibodies made after a pregnant person received an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine were found in umbilical cord blood. This means COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy might help protect babies against COVID-19. More data are needed to determine how these antibodies, similar to those produced with other vaccines, may provide protection to the baby.4

Additional clinical trials that study the safety of COVID-19 vaccines and how well they work in pregnant people are underway or planned. Vaccine manufacturers are also collecting and reviewing data from people in the completed clinical trials who received a vaccine and became pregnant.


If you are pregnant and receive a COVID-19 vaccine, consider participating in the v-safe pregnancy registry
If you are pregnant and have received a COVID-19 vaccine, we encourage you to enroll in v-safe. V-safe is CDC’s smartphone-based tool that uses text messaging and web surveys to provide personalized health check-ins after vaccination. A v-safe pregnancy registry has been established to gather information on the health of pregnant people who have received a COVID-19 vaccine. If people enrolled in v-safe report that they were pregnant at the time of vaccination or after vaccination, the registry staff might contact them to learn more. Participation is voluntary, and participants may opt out at any time.
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CDC Recommendations for People who are Pregnant​


COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for all people 12 years and older, including people who are pregnant. If you are pregnant, you might want to have a conversation with your healthcare provider about COVID-19 vaccination. While such a conversation might be helpful, it is not required before vaccination. You can receive a COVID-19 vaccine without any additional documentation from your healthcare provider.


CDC recommendations align with those from professional medical organizations serving people who are pregnant, including the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologistsexternal icon and the Society for Maternal Fetal Medicinepdf iconexternal icon.


If you got pregnant after receiving your first shot of a COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses (i.e., Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine), you should get your second shot to get as much protection as possible. If you experience fever following vaccination, you should take acetaminophen (Tylenol®) because fever—for any reason—has been associated with adverse pregnancy outcomes.
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CDC Recommendations for People who are Breastfeeding​


COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for all people 12 years and older, including people who are breastfeeding. Clinical trials for the COVID-19 vaccines currently used in the United States did not include people who are breastfeeding. Because the vaccines have not been studied in people who are breastfeeding, there are limited data available on the:


  • Safety of COVID-19 vaccines in people who are breastfeeding
  • Effects of vaccination on the breastfed baby
  • Effects on milk production or excretion

COVID-19 vaccines cannot cause infection in anyone, including the mother or the baby, and the vaccines are effective at preventing COVID-19 in people who are breastfeeding. Recent reports have shown that breastfeeding people who have received mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have antibodies in their breastmilk, which could help protect their babies. More data are needed to determine what protection these antibodies may provide to the baby.4-7
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salsa said:
Never underestimate large groups of people… doing their own research!


Anti-vaccine protesters tried to storm the BBC’s offices. But they had the wrong address.​


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...di8rRatEb9DfcjYQdRhdFNZC4qAR5LCKqygbjBb51bJIc
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The worst part is that it stopped being the BBC's headquarters 8 years ago. There was a campaign to keep the studios, and it was a big hubbub that this "national treasure" was to be sold off.

Jeremy Corbyn's brother Piers was one of the anti-vax protesters. I would say Jez got all the brains in the family, but it appears to be a raw deal for the entire bloodline.
 
PinkLucy said:
They probably thought the “mainstream” address info was a government plot to throw them off the scent
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The BBC produced a mockumentary series named “Twenty Twelve”, and its sequel series (2014-2017, 3 seasons), was quite literally filmed in Broadcast Centre hallways, not on sets. It was the BBC HQ as the BBC HQ, and the title of the series was “W1A”, the first half of the HQ postcode.

It couldn’t have been easier for the anti vaxxers them, and yet they still messed it up.
 
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