Brands
Active Member
Justin Trudeau is piloting a Liberal plane that is headed for a crash landing. If you are an MP on that plane, how would you feel?
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picard102
Senior Member
Then you should have said so rather than making silly assumptions, and stuck to the content of the comment.
Another assumption on your part. Add that to race, economic status, and what someone prays or advocates for.
You'd find less reason to shift the narrative if you avoid assumptions you can not verify in the future.
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Brands
Active Member
Trudeau and Biden are peas from the same pod. Their massive egos tell them they should stay, when it is obvious they should leave. Putting themselves over the well- being of their own party.
kEiThZ
Superstar
All those words and you still haven't explained why you're hoping for violence. You have a habit of this here. Hopefully the mods sort you out.
Brands
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Canada polls | 338Canada
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Look at these dreadful polls numbers for the Liberals:
| Polling Firm | Rating | Date (middle) | Sample | LPC | CPC | NDP | GPC | BQ | PPC | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Abacus Data | 2024-06-23 | 1,900 | 23 | 42 | 19 | 5 | 8 | 3 | CPC +19 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-06-21 | 1,000 (1/4) | 27 | 41 | 17 | 4 | 8 | 2 | CPC +14 | |
| Spark Advocacy | 2024-06-18 | 2,688 | 23 | 42 | 17 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +19 | |
| Angus Reid | 2024-06-16 | 3,080 | 21 | 42 | 20 | 4 | 10 | 2 | CPC +21 | |
| Ipsos | 2024-06-13 | 1,001 | 24 | 42 | 18 | 3 | 8 | 4 | CPC +18 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-06-13 | 1,000 (1/4) | 27 | 41 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 2 | CPC +14 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-06-10 | 1,500 | 22 | 42 | 19 | 5 | 8 | 3 | CPC +20 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-06-07 | 1,000 (1/4) | 29 | 41 | 18 | 4 | 7 | 2 | CPC +12 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-05-31 | 1,000 (1/4) | 26 | 42 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 2 | CPC +16 | |
| Léger | 2024-05-25 | 1,620 | 23 | 42 | 18 | 5 | 6 | 3 | CPC +19 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-05-24 | 1,000 (1/4) | 26 | 42 | 19 | 4 | 8 | 1 | CPC +16 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-05-19 | 2,415 | 25 | 41 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 3 | CPC +16 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-05-17 | 1,000 (1/4) | 25 | 43 | 17 | 4 | 8 | 3 | CPC +18 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-05-13 | 2,000 | 24 | 43 | 17 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +19 | |
| Ipsos | 2024-05-12 | 1,000 | 25 | 44 | 16 | 2 | 8 | 3 | CPC +19 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-05-10 | 1,000 (1/4) | 23 | 43 | 16 | 4 | 10 | 3 | CPC +20 | |
| Relay Strategies | 2024-05-06 | 1,555 | 23 | 45 | 16 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +22 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-05-03 | 1,000 (1/4) | 24 | 42 | 16 | 5 | 7 | 3 | CPC +18 | |
| Mainstreet Research | 2024-04-29 | 1,392 | 25 | 43 | 15 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +18 | |
| Léger | 2024-04-27 | 1,610 | 23 | 44 | 17 | 5 | 8 | 2 | CPC +21 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-04-27 | 1,500 | 23 | 44 | 17 | 4 | 7 | 4 | CPC +21 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-04-26 | 1,000 (1/4) | 24 | 44 | 16 | 4 | 8 | 3 | CPC +20 | |
| Angus Reid | 2024-04-21 | 3,015 | 23 | 43 | 19 | 4 | 8 | 1 | CPC +20 | |
| EKOS | 2024-04-20 | 1,033 | 26 | 37 | 23 | 4 | 6 | 3 | CPC +11 | |
| Innovative Research | 2024-04-20 | 1,408 | 26 | 41 | 17 | 5 | 8 | CPC +15 | ||
| Nanos Research | 2024-04-19 | 1,000 (1/4) | 23 | 42 | 19 | 3 | 9 | 3 | CPC +19 | |
| Ipsos | 2024-04-18 | 1,000 | 24 | 43 | 19 | 2 | 8 | 4 | CPC +19 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-04-14 | 2,300 | 23 | 43 | 18 | 5 | 7 | 3 | CPC +20 |
Brands
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| Nanos Research | 2024-04-05 | 1,000 (1/4) | 26 | 38 | 19 | 4 | 10 | 2 | CPC +12 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-03-29 | 1,000 (1/4) | 26 | 37 | 19 | 5 | 10 | 2 | CPC +11 | |
| Léger | 2024-03-24 | 1,570 | 26 | 42 | 17 | 4 | 7 | 2 | CPC +16 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-03-22 | 1,000 (1/4) | 24 | 39 | 20 | 5 | 9 | 2 | CPC +15 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-03-19 | 3,550 | 23 | 41 | 19 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +18 | |
| Ipsos | 2024-03-17 | 1,000 | 23 | 41 | 20 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +18 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-03-15 | 1,000 (1/4) | 25 | 39 | 20 | 5 | 8 | 2 | CPC +14 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-03-08 | 1,000 (1/4) | 23 | 41 | 21 | 5 | 7 | 2 | CPC +18 | |
| Mainstreet Research | 2024-03-08 | 1,274 | 25 | 46 | 15 | 4 | 6 | 2 | CPC +21 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-03-03 | 1,500 | 24 | 42 | 18 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +18 | |
| Angus Reid | 2024-03-02 | 3,908 | 23 | 40 | 21 | 4 | 9 | 2 | CPC +17 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-03-01 | 1,000 (1/4) | 23 | 43 | 21 | 4 | 6 | 1 | CPC +20 | |
| Léger | 2024-02-24 | 1,590 | 25 | 41 | 18 | 5 | 7 | 3 | CPC +16 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-02-23 | 1,000 (1/4) | 23 | 41 | 22 | 5 | 7 | 1 | CPC +18 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-02-19 | 2,125 | 24 | 41 | 19 | 5 | 8 | 3 | CPC +17 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-02-16 | 1,000 (1/4) | 24 | 41 | 22 | 5 | 6 | 1 | CPC +17 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-02-09 | 1,000 (1/4) | 24 | 40 | 21 | 5 | 6 | 1 | CPC +16 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-02-05 | 2,398 | 24 | 43 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 3 | CPC +19 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-02-02 | 1,000 (1/4) | 25 | 40 | 21 | 5 | 7 | 1 | CPC +15 | |
| Léger | 2024-01-27 | 1,537 | 25 | 40 | 20 | 5 | 8 | 2 | CPC +15 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-01-26 | 1,000 (1/4) | 27 | 39 | 20 | 5 | 7 | 1 | CPC +12 | |
| Mainstreet Research | 2024-01-26 | 947 | 26 | 43 | 16 | 4 | 6 | 3 | CPC +17 | |
| Ipsos | 2024-01-21 | 1,001 | 27 | 36 | 20 | 3 | 8 | 3 | CPC +9 | |
| Abacus Data | 2024-01-21 | 2,199 | 25 | 40 | 20 | 5 | 8 | 3 | CPC +15 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-01-19 | 1,000 (1/4) | 26 | 39 | 21 | 3 | 8 | 2 | CPC +13 | |
| Angus Reid | 2024-01-17 | 1,620 | 24 | 41 | 20 | 4 | 9 | 1 | CPC +17 | |
| Nanos Research | 2024-01-12 |
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| Abacus Data | 2024-01-07 | 1,500 | 24 | 41 | 18 | 4 | 7 | 5 | CPC +17 |
| Nanos Research | 2024-01-05 | 1,000 (1/4) | 26 | 38 | 21 | 4 | 7 | 2 | CPC +12 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-12-29 | 1,000 (1/4) | 27 | 40 | 18 | 5 | 7 | 2 | CPC +13 |
| Spark Advocacy | 2023-12-27 | 2,175 | 26 | 40 | 19 | 3 | 8 | 5 | CPC +14 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-12-22 | 1,000 (1/4) | 27 | 41 | 18 | 5 | 7 | 1 | CPC +14 |
| Léger | 2023-12-16 | 1,575 | 28 | 38 | 18 | 5 | 7 | 2 | CPC +10 |
| Pallas Data | 2023-12-14 | 1,177 | 27 | 41 | 17 | 5 | 7 | 3 | CPC +14 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-12-10 | 1,919 | 27 | 37 | 19 | 5 | 7 | 4 | CPC +10 |
| Mainstreet Research | 2023-12-09 | 879 | 24 | 42 | 17 | 5 | 7 | 3 | CPC +18 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-12-08 | 1,000 (1/4) | 26 | 40 | 20 | 6 | 6 | 2 | CPC +14 |
| Angus Reid | 2023-11-28 | 3,755 | 24 | 41 | 20 | 4 | 9 | 1 | CPC +17 |
| Research Co. | 2023-11-26 | 1,000 | 24 | 38 | 21 | 4 | 9 | 2 | CPC +14 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-11-26 | 2,417 | 23 | 42 | 19 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +19 |
| Léger | 2023-11-25 | 1,502 | 26 | 40 | 20 | 3 | 7 | 2 | CPC +14 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-11-24 | 1,000 (1/4) | 22 | 41 | 22 | 6 | 6 | 2 | CPC +19 |
| Innovative Research | 2023-11-20 | 5,534 | 24 | 40 | 19 | 5 | 7 | 4 | CPC +16 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-11-18 | 3,450 | 24 | 39 | 20 | 5 | 8 | 4 | CPC +15 |
| Ipsos | 2023-11-16 | 1,000 | 24 | 40 | 21 | 4 | 8 | 2 | CPC +16 |
| Angus Reid | 2023-11-12 | 2,512 | 27 | 41 | 20 | 4 | 7 | 1 | CPC +14 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-11-11 | 2,000 | 25 | 41 | 19 | 3 | 6 | 4 | CPC +16 |
| Mainstreet Research | 2023-11-06 | 1,892 | 26 | 41 | 18 | 4 | 6 | 3 | CPC +15 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-10-30 | 2,220 | 26 | 39 | 18 | 5 | 7 | 4 | CPC +13 |
| Léger | 2023-10-28 | 1,632 | 26 | 40 | 17 | 6 | 7 | 3 | CPC +14 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-10-27 | 1,000 (1/4) | 25 | 38 | 20 | 8 | 5 | 3 | CPC +13 |
| Pallas Data | 2023-10-22 | 1,484 | 27 | 43 | 16 | 3 | 7 | 3 | CPC +16 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-10-20 | 1,000 (1/4) | 24 | 40 | 19 | 8 | 5 | 5 | CPC +16 |
| Innovative Research | 2023-10-20 | 5,974 | 24 | 38 | 20 | 5 | 7 | 4 | CPC +14 |
| Mainstreet Research | 2023-10-12 | 1,223 | 27 | 41 | 17 | 3 | 6 | 3 | CPC +14 |
| Angus Reid | 2023-10-11 | 1,878 | 28 | 39 | 21 | 3 | 7 | 1 | CPC +11 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-10-08 | 1,915 | 26 | 40 | 19 | 5 | 7 | 2 | CPC +14 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-10-02 | 1,985 | 26 | 39 | 18 | 4 | 7 | 5 | CPC +13 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-09-29 | 1,000 (1/4) | 27 | 38 | 21 | 6 | 6 | 2 | CPC +11 |
Brands
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Canada polls | 338Canada
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| Léger | 2023-09-23 | 1,652 | 27 | 39 | 18 | 4 | 7 | 2 | CPC +12 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-09-22 | 1,000 (1/4) | 29 | 36 | 21 | 5 | 7 | 2 | CPC +7 |
| EKOS | 2023-09-22 | 1,025 | 23 | 42 | 18 | 7 | 6 | 3 | CPC +19 |
| Ipsos | 2023-09-17 | 1,500 | 30 | 39 | 17 | 3 | 8 | 2 | CPC +9 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-09-15 | 1,000 (1/4) | 29 | 35 | 22 | 5 | 7 | 2 | CPC +6 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-09-10 | 2,125 | 26 | 41 | 18 | 3 | 8 | 3 | CPC +15 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-09-08 | 1,000 | 29 | 34 | 22 | 5 | 7 | 3 | CPC +5 |
| Research Co. | 2023-09-03 | 1,000 | 31 | 37 | 17 | 3 | 8 | 1 | CPC +6 |
| Angus Reid | 2023-09-03 | 3,400 | 27 | 39 | 19 | 4 | 8 | 2 | CPC +12 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-09-02 | 3,595 | 26 | 40 | 19 | 4 | 6 | 3 | CPC +14 |
| Léger | 2023-08-26 | 1,597 | 29 | 38 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 2 | CPC +9 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-08-25 | 1,000 (1/4) | 30 | 33 | 22 | 6 | 7 | 2 | CPC +3 |
| Mainstreet Research | 2023-08-22 | 1,280 | 28 | 41 | 15 | 4 | 7 | 3 | CPC +13 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-08-21 | 2,189 | 26 | 38 | 19 | 4 | 7 | 4 | CPC +12 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-08-18 | 1,000 (1/4) | 30 | 34 | 20 | 7 | 7 | 2 | CPC +4 |
| Pallas Data | 2023-08-17 | 1,021 | 30 | 39 | 17 | 5 | 7 | 2 | CPC +9 |
| Angus Reid | 2023-08-10 | 1,606 | 31 | 38 | 18 | 5 | 7 | 1 | CPC +7 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-08-05 | 1,650 | 28 | 37 | 19 | 4 | 8 | 3 | CPC +9 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-07-23 | 2,486 | 28 | 38 | 18 | 5 | 7 | 4 | CPC +10 |
| Léger | 2023-07-09 | 1,512 | 28 | 37 | 17 | 5 | 7 | 3 | CPC +9 |
| Mainstreet Research | 2023-07-07 | 1,201 | 30 | 37 | 17 | 5 | 6 | 3 | CPC +7 |
| Nanos Research | 2023-06-30 | 1,000 (1/4) | 30 | 36 | 19 | 6 | 6 | 2 | CPC +6 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-06-25 | 1,500 | 29 | 34 | 20 | 5 | 7 | 5 | CPC +5 |
| Ipsos | 2023-06-20 | 1,000 | 32 | 37 | 16 | 3 | 8 | 2 | CPC +5 |
| Pollara | 2023-06-16 | 7,001 | 30 | 32 | 21 | 5 | 8 | 3 | CPC +2 |
| Abacus Data | 2023-06-09 | 2,000 | 28 | 35 | 21 | 4 | 7 | 4 | CPC +7 |
| Mainstreet Research | 2023-06-07 | 1,045 | 29 | 35 | 21 | 5 | 5 | 2 | CPC +6 |
| Angus Reid | 2023-06-01 | 3,885 | 29 | 37 | 20 | 4 | 8 | 2 | CPC +8 |
Brands
Active Member
I wonder if Jagmeet Singh pulls the plug on the supply confidence deal. The only party it is benefiting the Conservatives. Being associated with a leader as unpopular as Justin Trudeau is dragging down support for both the Liberals and the NDP.
Justin Trudeau is so unpopular that he is dragging down support for Liberals across Canada, Federal, Provincial, and municipal.
Justin Trudeau is so unpopular that he is dragging down support for Liberals across Canada, Federal, Provincial, and municipal.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Why exactly would Singh cancel this deal? He's getting a ton of NDP priorities implemented with Trudeau and the Liberals wearing the blame. He also doesn't want to be blamed for bringing the Conservatives to power early. And he doesn't want to risk his pension or screw his MPs out of theirs. They are going till next year.
picard102
Senior Member
Which municipal government operates on the party system? Do you have a source that confirms this?
Brands
Active Member
Justin Trudeau is so unpopular that NDP votes are going to the Conservatives. Anything to finally get rid of Justin Trudeau. It doesn't matter if the election is today or next year. Canadians are fed up with Justin Trudeau. This Liberal government is on life support.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Justin Trudeau is not responsible for making sure the NDP keeps their base. Nor do I think he's the reason they're losing support. They went from a party that was pro-worker party to one that is increasingly out of touch with the working class. Building a party full of college activists comes at a price.
The working class is also drifting to the right. This is a fairly universal phenomenon. Not something that is just the fault of Trudeau. We see it in the US, in France right now, in the UK during Brexit (although the UK is swinging away now). This is largely the failure of neoliberalism hitting home. Trade policies that shipped jobs elsewhere and immigration policies that brought their middle and working class here to suppress wages and jack up real estate. Backlash is understandable.
Maybe. But you still haven't made a case for how it's in the NDP's interest to pull the trigger right now.
Brands
Active Member
I know NDP voters who are voting Conservative, simply because they hate Justin Trudeau and want him gone. They know their guy won't win, however don't want Jusitn Trudeau to win, and they are willing to roll the dice by voting for Pierre Poilievre.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Think deeper. What are their reasons for hating Justin Trudeau?