rdaner
Senior Member
I can see a case where people in Ottawa book a ticket for rail to Pearson for a convenient connection that would otherwise take several changes.
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MisterF
Senior Member
People from Ottawa and Montreal often fly through Pearson, so a high speed train would replace a flight for that first leg. It can go in the opposite direction too. Some international cities have better connections to Trudeau than Pearson.
nfitz
Superstar
Price is a factor too, in addition to connections.
CapitalSeven
Senior Member
I remain doubtful but we'll see what the situation is circa 2040 which is my guess for the first train.
Mr.Tang
Active Member
Political situation is getting worse continually. Probability of gov't having the money for this type of investment getting smaller, and smaller. Can we claim it is military spending to help get to our Nato requirement? What if we buy all the parts from Ohio?
crs1026
Superstar
If, as many suspect, there will be a new round of trade negotiations, Canada will need all the leverage it can get.
A commitment to give American manufacturers priority in procurement for infrastructure is not beyond possibility.
Alternatively, the threat of tariffs that would favour European manufacturers is quite appropriate in a carrot and stick negotiation. Canada will need all the levers we can muster.
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guavadelic
New Member
Whichever train model they choose for this project will likely be manufactured in the States. HSR rolling stock options for North America seem down to Siemens and Alstom, both of which have a significant manufacturing presence down south.
urbancog
Active Member
If the Cadence consortium has won the RfP (which this post suggests), the train supplier will be Alstom because CDPQ owns 18% of Alstom's shares and has a permanent representative (Kim Thomassin) on their Board of Directors.
www.alstom.com
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generalcanada
Senior Member
They could also get their signalling from them tooIf the Cadence consortium has won the RfP (which this post suggests), the train supplier will be Alstom because CDPQ owns 18% of Alstom's shares and has a permanent representative (Kim Thomassin) on their Board of Directors.
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Urban Sky
Senior Member
If Cadence is indeed the chosen development partner, then it will only show how none of the project’s promoters has understood the less-than-subtle differences between the preferences of a liberal and of a conservative government. Good luck to totally-not-SNC-Lavalin, the CDPQ and yet another Montreal-based company (Air Canada) with negotiating with PP…If the Cadence consortium has won the RfP (which this post suggests), the train supplier will be Alstom because CDPQ owns 18% of Alstom's shares and has a permanent representative (Kim Thomassin) on their Board of Directors.
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guavadelic
New Member
The federal government is the one making the choice of which consortium to go with and they probably think they'll be governing forever so.....
micheal_can
Senior Member
I am not sure I understand the whole process. I thought this bid was only to come up with the design options and methods. Have they been chosen for the entire process up to opening day? In 5 years, when the plan is sorted out, is the government stuck with this consortium? If the government of the day does not wish to continue beyond that phase, the that is where it ends?
The fact that they cut it up from this point to a fully operational system still confuses me.
The fact that they cut it up from this point to a fully operational system still confuses me.
goodcitywhenfinished
Active Member
Another sovereigntist swing is brewing in Quebec and the conservatives will have to adapt to the political realities that a PQ majority is going to present. Carrots will be on the table.
Simply put: I don't think it will be as easy as many here are speculating for the cons to shelve this project.
If the Liberals built TransMountain begrudgingly, it is entirely within political reality that this project will be delivered begrudgingly by the Conservatives
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Urban Sky
Senior Member
I‘m not talking about the Conservatives shelving the project, but about them descoping the project to the point where (presumably) Cadence throws in the towel and the Conservatives start a more traditional RFP, but one which actually stands a chance to attract the funding it requires. The current project scope is merely a monument to unnecessary and unrestrained scope creep and the announcement of a winner for the „co-development phase“ little more than the grand finale of a beauty pageant contest.
Just as with Wynne‘s HSR fantasy, the only goal of the Liberal government seems to be to escalate the scope creep and keep the project alive just for long enough so that it explodes the moment their successors assume office and start poking it. It‘s already the second HSR proposal in a single decade which a liberal government in this country mishandles just to score cheap points for election campaigns…
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innsertnamehere
Superstar
There are a lot of very definitive statements getting thrown around here on a project we know effectively 0 details about.
Lets wait and see what in the hell the Liberals are actually thinking first before passing judgement, perhaps?
Lets wait and see what in the hell the Liberals are actually thinking first before passing judgement, perhaps?