Eug
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So, why try then to force Ford to attend something he doesn't want to?
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dt_toronto_geek
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As stated previously on numerous occasions, it's his job - it's part of his duties as Mayor.
* "participate in and foster activities that enhance the economic, social and environmental well being of the City and its residents"
Paleo
Active Member
I don't doubt that McGuinty has attended one of the many low-key pride events that get scant coverage but what excuse does he have for not attending the main event - the Pride Parade
Why didn't he attend last year
Has he ever - as premier - attended the parade
If he has attended Pride in the past why is he avoiding it now like the plague
How am I "spreading anti-gay hatred"by pointing out that McGuinty is snubbing the Pride parade once again
Has our premier ever made comments similar to what our mayor has made in the past?
nfitz
Superstar
Why the lies? McGuinty attended some Pride events last year. He spoken out in the past very positively about Pride, and has gone out of his way to publicly make funding available, criticizing other levels of government for failing to do so.
How can you possibly compare this to Rob Ford, who seems to do the exact opposite? I fail to understand why Ford's toadies, are so quick to defend his anti-gay stance.
Johnny Au
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Yes, the Toronto Sun is better used as toilet paper than as a source of information.
nfitz
Superstar
My butt deserves far better.
Peepers
Banned
I wasn't "lying"!
I acknowledged that McGuinty has attended low-key pride week events that get zero media coverage but it is also a FACT that McGuinty is NOT attending this years PARADE and McGuinty did not attend last years PARADE.
Has McGuinty ever taken part in the PARADE?
If so why is he NOW avoiding the PARADE like the plague?
I am NOT defending Ford at all. I am just pointing out the FACT that McGuinty does not want to be associated with the PARADE and I can only imagine this is for political reasons.
McGuinty does not want to alienate the growing number of "new Canadians" who come from intolerant cultures where being gay is considered a crime (in some countries punishable by death). McGuinty does not want to alienate this new group of voters. It was this group who helped in large part to elect Rob Ford because they would not vote for a homosexual opponent.
While McGuinty couldn't fit the Pride PARADE into his busy schedule last year it is noteworthy that he didn't miss out on any of the hokey "Bollywood" events or the crime-ridden Caribana parade.
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Peepers
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I am not "defending" Ford. I said in my first sentence on this subject that Ford should attend the parade. There is no excuse for him not to. What I don't like is how other politicians, such as our "Liberal" premier get a free pass for dodging the pride PARADE . Oh sure, McGuilty will put in an obligatory appearance at one of the many pride week events that get zero media coverage but when , if ever, has McGuinty participated in the PARADE? (sending George Smitherman or Glen Murray to act as an emissary doesn't count).
dt_toronto_geek
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Where did you get this from?!
Isn't it more appropriate that the MPP for Toronto Centre possibly attend these big community events downtown as opposed to the Premier of the Province? Once again, is he required to attend hundreds of these large events each year all over the Province?
Peepers
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Purely from observing the changing Canadian political landscape over the years. Harper won his majority in large part thanks to this new group of voters who come from countries and cultures that are intolerant of gays ( Ironically, Harpers "point man" for this group is his minister of immigration who is widely rumored to be a closeted gay !)
No it is not more appropriate.
If the Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, can find time to take part in NYC's pride PARADE what is McGuinty's excuse for not attending Toronto's pride parade?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwVnAaEtv80
Oh sure, McGuinty will turn up at some low-key pride-week event (wearing a CONSERVATIVE suit as we see in the video above!) but when has he ever taken part in the ACTUAL parade?
If McGuinty ever particpated in the actual PARADE (as opposed to a cocktail reception) in the past why is he shunning the PARADE now?
The pride PARADE is not just "one of hundreds" of major events. It is the biggest single day event in Downtown Toronto. If McGuinty can find time to take part in the crime-ridden Caribana parade and last years hokey "Bollywood" events , why does he shun the pride parade?
Food for thought
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GenerationW
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If I have this right, you're claiming that the (allegedly) mostly blond and redheaded ancient Greeks were replaced virtually wholesale in the 6th century by the invading Slavs, And even though blond hair was and is a distinguishing feature of many Slavs, the modern Greeks that arose from this blond-on-blond process somehow stopped producing blonds.
Then there's the question of why the Greek language didn't disappear after this "almost complete population replacement" supposedly occurred. Who would have been left to teach Greek to the conquerors if the Greeks had been almost completely vanquished, and why would the Slavs even care about learning it?
Sound like you've read too much Fallmerayer.
ShonTron
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Purely from observing the changing Canadian political landscape over the years. Harper won his majority in large part thanks to this new group of voters who come from countries and cultures that are intolerant of gays ( Ironically, Harpers "point man" for this group is his minister of immigration who is widely rumored to be a closeted gay !)
No it is not more appropriate.
If the Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, can find time to take part in NYC's pride PARADE what is McGuinty's excuse for not attending Toronto's pride parade?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwVnAaEtv80
Oh sure, McGuinty will turn up at some low-key pride-week event (wearing a CONSERVATIVE suit as we see in the video above!) but when has he ever taken part in the ACTUAL parade?
If McGuinty ever particpated in the actual PARADE (as opposed to a cocktail reception) in the past why is he shunning the PARADE now?
The pride PARADE is not just "one of hundreds" of major events. It is the biggest single day event in Downtown Toronto. If McGuinty can find time to take part in the crime-ridden Caribana parade and last years hokey "Bollywood" events , why does he shun the pride parade?
Food for thought
I think you made your point by now. Your name for the Ontario NDP leader crossed the line.
At this point, there's no way to convince Ford to show up to the parade. But a concilitatory showing at the flag raising in front of his office should be the least Ford can do. McGuinty at least has been to the parade, and one could argue in his defense (besides the point that, at least in my opinion, there's no need to show to the parade itself every year), he appointed three openly gay MPPs to his cabinets (two of whom are serving now).
Tewder
Senior Member
The thing is, not a lot of immigrants are all that willing to throw the gays under the bus. They are minorities themselves in many cases. A 'live and let live' approach is probably the best strategy for most, regardless of what one's personal or cultural biases are.
... and as for the changing Canadian political landscape how do you account for what happened recently in the Alberta election? There may be irritant factions arguing for white supremacy or anti-gay policies but in the end they are losing a larger battle that is arguing for tolerance and diversity. Harper is a smart dude (no question) and I'm sure he's taking note of this.
Eug
Senior Member
FWIW, unfortunately, there was a homophobic Tamil ad that specifically supported Ford because of Smitherman's sexual orientation. Ford did condemn the ad, however.
http://twitter.com/#!/RobFordTeam/status/28614663265
http://twitter.com/#!/RobFordTeam/status/28614663265
Peepers
Banned
NDP leader ?