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Kat_YYZ
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Haha, kind of like how RoFo is so useless, he himself could easily be replaced by the drinking bird, as in the Simpsons episode.
AlvinofDiaspar
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And even more interesting is his involvement in the Oshawa council debacle.
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evvabeing
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and rust d'eye is kingston's new integrity commissioner...
http://www.thewhig.com/2013/12/03/council-appoints-integrity-commissioner
http://www.thewhig.com/2013/12/03/council-appoints-integrity-commissioner
SecretSquirrel
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Presumably Ford will encourage Rust-D'Eye to have the position abolished, as it's obviously unnecessary.
zang
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I think statements like that (and the quote often wrongly attributed to Churchill about being a conservative when older) are merely a lack of recognition towards the ever progressing liberalism in our society. A recent study showed that if anything, we get slightly more progressive with age. If you keep the same ideological status quo for decades, it will seem as though you're getting more conservative, relative to society. In fact though, the opposite is happening.
newearthling
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Agreed.
I know my parents certainly have. They're retired but comfortable yet society getting less unequal and people actually having the benefits of technological progress across the board is very important to them. The blinders they used to have about the motives of the capitalist establishment have been pretty much blown away. Then again they are retired and have more time to study current events in detail.
I think the peak of selfish conservatism is at the ages when careerism is most intense. People can't see past their own struggles and simply want more of their money and fewer obstacles as they race to establish their peak earning years.
jsmth
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Oh Rob Ford....
According to this website http://www.ontariosunshinelist.com he got a 61.2% raise after his first year as mayor. That raise, according to the site,
was in the 99th percentile for the entire Sunshine List. Do I hear the gravy train coming...?
You can search every sunshine list (back to 1996) on that site...it's pretty neat. It says the average Toronto police officer got a 8% raise last year. Only in Toronto....
According to this website http://www.ontariosunshinelist.com he got a 61.2% raise after his first year as mayor. That raise, according to the site,
was in the 99th percentile for the entire Sunshine List. Do I hear the gravy train coming...?
You can search every sunshine list (back to 1996) on that site...it's pretty neat. It says the average Toronto police officer got a 8% raise last year. Only in Toronto....
Dubster
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Have talked about how weird the name "Rust D'Eye" is? Rusted Eye?
John_Dee
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In Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell's "From Hell" - and here I'm talking about the excellent book, not the utterly shitty movie adaptation - there's an early scene that features a long, meandering conversation between two of the principle characters that covers several different subjects. When the topic turns to politics, one of the men, a self-styled intellectual, offers some standard leftist boilerplate, but his companion, a retired police detective, responds with something along the following lines: "That's where you're wrong. The working class aren't interested in universal justice. They don't want your glorious revolution. They just want more money." It may be a work of fiction, but I've seen that point proven, up close and with my own eyes, while dealing with total strangers as well as members of my immediate family.
It's basically the old "I've Got Mine, So Fuck You" attitude we see so often these days, along with the accompanying spite and resentment we get from those who aren't doing as well as they think they should be, and are eager for scapegoats to take their anger out on. The sort of rubes who are ripe for the picking by even someone as obvious and crude and not overly bright himself as Rob Ford.
It's basically the old "I've Got Mine, So Fuck You" attitude we see so often these days, along with the accompanying spite and resentment we get from those who aren't doing as well as they think they should be, and are eager for scapegoats to take their anger out on. The sort of rubes who are ripe for the picking by even someone as obvious and crude and not overly bright himself as Rob Ford.
SecretSquirrel
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This chimes with my own experience. As I get older and broaden my horizons, I have found myself becoming more and more liberal. I've never taken particular issue with paying my taxes etc. as I realise that's the price I pay for living somewhere where garbage gets picked up and I don't get shot at or robbed on a daily basis, but the older I get the more bewildered I am by the general trampling the poor receive at the hands of conservatives.
My parents, who started out struggling in their 20s and are now comfortably well-off decades later, have likewise become more liberal.
nfitz
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Hang on ... that's mostly his raise from councillor to mayor. His first full year of mayor was 2011, when he earned $167,770. In 2010, he was mayor for 1 month and councillor for 11 months, so his $104,067 salary is mostly representative of his time as councillor.
jsmth
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oops.. good point. thanks.
nfitz
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It's still worth knowing how he got an almost 3% raise from 2011 to 2012 though. That exceeds inflation, and what he was pushing on staff (other than the police).
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