voxpopulicosmicum
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Either my sarcasometer isn't working or you're wrong.
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Either my sarcasometer isn't working or you're wrong.
ttk77
Senior Member
Yeah...for a guy who is unilaterally making big decisions about the future of public transit in this city, he should really know what he's talking about. Knowing how often a particular street-car blocks his SUV does not make him a transit expert. Actually using the system would be a good place for him to start.
W. K. Lis
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The Core Service Review—Final Report to Executive Committee is now available for download in PDF form at this link (26 pages).
Just skimmed through it a bit, I don't like what I glimpsed at.
Just skimmed through it a bit, I don't like what I glimpsed at.
Marcanadian
Moderator
That's disgusting. Eliminating the Blue Night bus network and closing the Zoo? Are these real recommendations? How is it possible that every other Mayor could balance the budget without significant service cuts but Ford can't?
Thanos
Active Member
"“As a businessman, I have the experience of creating jobs, meeting payrolls, and I understand how the real world works, the business world,” Ford said."
After reading this comment i lost whatever little respect i had for Rob Ford.
When a real business person has to resort to say something like this then you clearly know he is not a real businessperson but some guy who inherited his dad's company.
Juan_Lennon416
Senior Member
this guy really wants to cut everything! What next...no running the furnace at City Hall during winter?
tkip
Active Member
Nonsense. Ford could easily have hired competent transit advisors which is another matter entirely. But to say Ford has to hop on the train to avoid criticisms is silly.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
He did with David Gunn, then ignored his recommendation that the Sheppard Subway is too expensive to build. When there is competent advise coming his way, if they don't fit into his ideas they are cut, if they do they get blown out of proportion.
Juan_Lennon416
Senior Member
I thought the more sensible right-wing City Councillors would have kept Ford in line. They proved me wrong
EnviroTO
Senior Member
Every other mayor was reasonably intelligent.
christiesplits
Senior Member
The night bus cuts are going to the most fragile of Torontonians. Tims employees, security guards, and retail workers who arrive downtown from the far reaches of North Scarborough and North Etobicoke before most of us wake up.
This is going to be brutal.
This is going to be brutal.
nfitz
Superstar
Apparently there's nothing about cuts to night service in the TTC budget cut reports that are coming out today. Executive Committee report seems designed simply to confuse ... also suggests cutting library branches, but even Ford has spoken out against major library cuts.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
But we could get a Ferris Wheel, which will go 'round and 'round. Whoppie!
nfitz
Superstar
Not sure what's wrong with a huge Ferris Wheel. Apparently the smaller one in London is the most popular paid tourist attraction in London, with over 3.5 million people a year riding it.
There's a lot of things wrong with Ford's plans. But something like this, that takes up virtually no space, doesn't seem like something in itself to complain about.
greenleaf
Senior Member
Some more evidence that privatization of government services isn't all it's cracked up to be, from Government Pays More in Contracts, Study Finds (via NY Times):
The study found that in 33 of 35 occupations, the government actually paid billions of dollars more to hire contractors than it would have cost government employees to perform comparable services. On average, the study found that contractors charged the federal government more than twice the amount it pays federal workers.
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The Heritage Foundation, a conservative research group in Washington, released a report last year that found that federal employees earn 22 percent more in hourly wages than the private sector. The Heritage study also found that if federal employee compensation were adjusted to match that of their private sector counterparts, federal spending would be reduced by $47 billion in 2011 alone.
But POGO said its study did not just compare the salaries of the two sectors; instead it focused on what the government actually pays contractors to perform services versus how much it would cost to have that work done by in-house staff members.
“That’s a big difference,” said Scott Amey, POGO’s general counsel. “We compared the full compensation paid to federal government and private sector employees to the billable rates in federal service contracts. Across the board you see that it cost government more to pay for contractors.”
The study found that in 33 of 35 occupations, the government actually paid billions of dollars more to hire contractors than it would have cost government employees to perform comparable services. On average, the study found that contractors charged the federal government more than twice the amount it pays federal workers.
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The Heritage Foundation, a conservative research group in Washington, released a report last year that found that federal employees earn 22 percent more in hourly wages than the private sector. The Heritage study also found that if federal employee compensation were adjusted to match that of their private sector counterparts, federal spending would be reduced by $47 billion in 2011 alone.
But POGO said its study did not just compare the salaries of the two sectors; instead it focused on what the government actually pays contractors to perform services versus how much it would cost to have that work done by in-house staff members.
“That’s a big difference,” said Scott Amey, POGO’s general counsel. “We compared the full compensation paid to federal government and private sector employees to the billable rates in federal service contracts. Across the board you see that it cost government more to pay for contractors.”
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