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I had that thought when the Fords started crying poor over lawyer's fees; yeah, maybe shaking it out of Magder and C-F is typical "gimme your lunch money" tactics, but still, up to now the Ford clan has been popularly presented (and self-promoted) as, well...loaded.
You don't get or stay rich by giving it away.

Try suing Galen Weston, Frank Stronach or any of Canada's most public and wealthiest people and then losing the case. You don't think these folks would be demanding you pay up for their expenses?

Besides, Chaleff-Freudenthaler and any who are willing to be his fall guys (i.e. Paul Madger, et al) need to see that there is a downside to suing people. If you continue to try this, and lose every time, there has to be a financial penalty. There's already rumours that C-F is building a fourth case against Ford, and thus needs another Strawman to take the fall if he fails again.

http://www.thespec.com/news/ontario...be-prosecuted-for-alleged-election-violations
Chaleff-Freudenthaler did not rule out the possibility that they will bring a rare private prosecution against Ford. “We’re considering our options. All of them,” Chaleff-Freudenthaler, a left-leaning activist and former vice-chair of the library board, said in an interview.

Foulidis and his now recognized fraudster family are lucky they didn't get the same treatment. They won't be so lucky in round two, if they try again.
 
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Ford was convicted, guilty, and then let off on the mother of all technicalities. Madger shouldn't have to pay the fees for what was a very necessary trial to regulate the behaviour of our elected officials.
 
Ford was convicted, guilty, and then let off on the mother of all technicalities. Madger shouldn't have to pay the fees for what was a very necessary trial to regulate the behaviour of our elected officials.

Anybody in Rob Ford's situation would demand costs. It's just part of our legal system. It's not even like Ford's cost request is excessive, being substantially less than Magder's original cost demand.
 
It seems it wasn't city letterhead this time, so I'm not sure any rules are being broken. Still it's terrible optics for the mayor to solicit lobbyists, of all people. Those should be the people you DON'T solicit when you're in his position, but he knows damn well they'll donate to whatever cause the mayor wants them to.
 
I think what the anti-Ford crowd doesn’t understand that all these constant witch hunts do is solidify Fords base even more and attract new people to his side who rightly or wrongly see the anti-Ford crowd as whiners and sore losers. The more he keeps beating these challenges the stronger his appeal gets. The last thing I would do if I wanted to get Ford out would be to launch yet another case against him…its free publicity for him.
 
It seems it wasn't city letterhead this time, so I'm not sure any rules are being broken. Still it's terrible optics for the mayor to solicit lobbyists, of all people. Those should be the people you DON'T solicit when you're in his position, but he knows damn well they'll donate to whatever cause the mayor wants them to.
Exactly. And he should know better, but hey, he never has.
 
I think what the anti-Ford crowd doesn’t understand that all these constant witch hunts do is solidify Fords base even more and attract new people to his side who rightly or wrongly see the anti-Ford crowd as whiners and sore losers. The more he keeps beating these challenges the stronger his appeal gets. The last thing I would do if I wanted to get Ford out would be to launch yet another case against him…its free publicity for him.
I don't agree with this. The media's obsession with him surely doesn't help - but neither did the Toronto Star's anti-Miller tirade for the last 2 years before the last election.

I've heard comments from many people that if they'd realized just how incompetent, corrupt, ineffective, or embarrassing he would be, they'd never have voted for him. And comments from others that felt that they had no choice to vote for him, as there were no other reasonable candidates.

If an ethical, competent candidate of the calibre of John Tory, David Miller, or Art Eggleton was to run against him, I can't imagine that he'd have a hope in hell.

Now if we have Harpo, Chico, and Groucho running against him ... then even I think Ford would win.
 
From The Star, at this link:

Mayor Rob Ford still asking lobbyists to donate to his football foundation
Recent fundraising letters revive a practice said to violate the city’s code of conduct — and which led to the recent court case.

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Mayor Rob Ford is still asking registered lobbyists to donate to his football foundation — a practice that violates the city’s code of conduct and led to the court case that nearly forced him out of office.

Two lobbyists showed the Star fundraising letters Ford sent them within the past two months on behalf of the foundation. Ford hand-signed both letters.

Andy Manahan, executive director of the Residential and Civil Construction Alliance of Ontario, said he received a letter on Jan. 28 — only three days after Ford won his appeal in the conflict of interest saga that began with his decision to solicit donations from lobbyists in 2009.

Manahan first registered as a lobbyist in 2008. He said he is currently lobbying on an entirely uncontroversial issue, improving the procurement process, and that he finds this Ford “indiscretion†less serious than others he believes Ford has committed.

But he added: “You never know what a mayor’s office could do to put a monkey wrench into your dealings with the city.â€

“I don’t think it’s appropriate to take those sort of lists and send out letters to people who have dealings with the city,†Manahan said. “Again, there could be repercussions. There’s potential.â€

Ford left Wednesday morning for a vacation in Florida, and his spokesperson did not respond to requests for comment.

Councillor Doug Ford said he personally does not think it matters whether the recipient of a letter is a registered lobbyist or not, since many well-meaning companies are registered lobbyists. His brother sends “mass mailers,†he said, and does not target lobbyists specifically.

The Star called 19 other registered lobbyists. Eight said they had not received a recent letter from Ford, 11 did not respond.

The Rob Ford Football Foundation helps high schools start football teams by paying for the expensive equipment. In Rob Ford’s letters, which began “Dear Friends,†he listed 13 schools he has assisted, then said, “Your support to the Rob Ford Football Foundation will help the youth of Toronto participate in extra-curricular activities that promote discipline and leadership.â€

After he explained how to donate, he concluded, “I greatly appreciate your consideration with respect to this worthy cause. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your generous support. Yours truly, Rob Ford.â€

Ford said in court in September that he exchanges business cards with almost everyone he meets and later sends fundraising letters to people whose cards he has received. Manahan said he has not met with Ford but has met with a member of his staff.

The second registered lobbyist asked not to be named for fear of alienating the Ford administration. He said, “I think it’s kind of suspicious. The only interactions I’ve had with him were on city business or as a lobbyist registrant.â€

He added: “It goes back to: are you allowed to use names and contact information from business dealings to raise funds? Is that permitted? It sure seems strange.â€

The city’s integrity commissioner, Janet Leiper, ruled in 2010 that taking donations from lobbyists violates provisions in council’s code of conduct prohibiting the “improper use of influence†and the acceptance of gifts and benefits “connected directly or indirectly†with the performance of council duties.

“(Then-)Councillor Ford made the decision as to who he would ask for donations, and these donations benefited both the schools who received grants, but also Councillor Ford,†Leiper wrote. “Just as it is improper for lobbyists to offer or provide gifts, benefits or favours, it is equally as improper for public office holders to ask for or suggest ways for lobbyists to provide gifts, benefits or favours.â€

Leiper also said Ford violated the code by sending fundraising letters under his official city letterhead. He no longer does so.

On Leiper’s recommendation, council ordered Ford to repay $3,150 to 11 lobbyists and clients of lobbyists, and one company, that had made donations. Ford voted in 2012 to excuse himself from repayment, prompting a conflict of interest lawsuit.

A judge evicted Ford from office in November, but Ford kept his job when an appeal court ruled that council did not have the authority to order him to pay back the money in the first place. None of the judges questioned Leiper’s finding that soliciting donations from lobbyists violates the code of conduct.

Ford also sent a fundraising letter in the past two months to a non-lobbyist who does business with the city and whose fortunes he could directly influence: Brian Ashton, president of the Canadian National Exhibition Association, which stages the annual fair.

Ashton received a letter from Ford on Jan. 10 — three days after Ford’s lawyer argued his appeal in court but before the judges released their decision.

As mayor, Ford is automatically a member of the association board; if Ashton seeks re-election, Ford could vote for or against him. Under its new governance model, the association will pay rent of more than $3 million to the city in 2013.

“It’s awkward because if you’re doing business with the city in any fashion, do you feel a sense of obligation?†said Ashton, a former centrist councillor who retired from politics in 2010. “If you don’t (donate), will that influence his impression or support of your organization?â€

Ashton is currently urging council members not to put a casino at Exhibition Place. He said the fundraising letters are “unnerving†because “the Fords are very powerful in Toronto.â€

“I just hope that (Rob Ford) separates the two and doesn’t allow fundraising efforts to influence decisions with respect to the casino or any other CNE business,†Ashton said.

Ford told Leiper in 2010 that he did not check to see whether the people to whom he was planning to send letters were lobbyists or appointees to city boards.

Anyone can determine whether someone is a registered lobbyist by typing a name into the publicly accessible lobbyist registry. But Doug Ford said Wednesday that he does not think his brother does so, even today.

“No. I don’t believe it makes a difference who it is. Because there are so many companies that are registered in the City of Toronto; if you look, there’s probably a couple thousand of them,†Doug Ford said.

“It depends on what you call a lobbyist or not. Rob can’t stand lobbyists; he’s the guy who fights against lobbyists. But it depends on who you call a lobbyist. Do you call ‘ABC Company,’ that wants to open up, and they’re registered, and they need to talk to councillors — are they lobbyists? I guess they are.â€

Doug Ford said the Star should “find something more interesting†to write about.

“You guys are killing yourselves — you can write whatever you want; the more you write, the moreis (poll) numbers go up,†he said. “It’s fact.â€

I find it interesting that if Rob Ford had won his court case, why doesn't he just continue to use city hall letterhead? Did he do something wrong that he had to change the letterhead? Hmm.
 
He told The Sun this in an interview:

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/02/28/mayorzilla-rob-ford-burns-ttc

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“I hate those damn streetcars - they are just a pain in the rear-end,†Ford said. “You get behind them and you can’t get around them and then you get your cyclists too. Between those two (streetcars and cyclists) trying to get from where I live to downtown, it’s a nightmare.

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His fault for taking Dundas everyday to work. There's plenty of other routes from Etobicoke he should try - like the Gardiner, which neither have streetcars or cyclists. Or Bloor, which has cyclists, but no streetcars or buses.

How many people are on the streetcar he's behind and how many people are in the car he's driving? Who should get priority, the one driver and his bodyguard or the one hundred people on the streetcar?
 
How many people are on the streetcar he's behind and how many people are in the car he's driving? Who should get priority, the one driver and his bodyguard or the one hundred people on the streetcar?
The easy fix is to not permit on-street parking at any time unless there is a free lane for vehicles, plus prohibit left turns without a dedicated off-rail turn lane on streetcar routes. Yes, retailers will whine that their customers can't park out front, but if streetcars are moving better, they may consider more the TTC as an option.

There's no reason we can't have both streetcars and regular traffic moving smoothly along. Both face a common problem, that of other cars getting in the way by either stopping and turning left in front of the streetcar or parking in the only available lane beside the streetcar rail. Eliminate the left turners and parkers and both modes of transit will move nicely.

And yes, before someone starts on about how a vibrant city is more than getting people through it as quickly as possible, witha comment about preserving retail and something about "will no one think of the children?" etc..... I think if we get transit and cars moving better, more people will consider the streetcar. As long as they share the same space (rather than dedicated TTC ROWs), you can't improve streetcar movement without improving same for cars, since it's cars that block the streetcars, and vice versa.
 
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