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“Sometimes I think about dying. And then I wonder about going to hell. And then I think that if and when I go there, the place will be completely organized and run by lost souls, with a council and a works committee and an ethics panel, and I'll feel right at home.â€


― Charles Sheffield
 
No, as a victim of parental abuse myself, I completely agree. She's pure vitriol, through and through. I was just expounding upon her odd relationship with Ford, given the circumstances.

Sorry, I agreed with you 100%, just wanted to make an extra point :).
 
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Just digging around a little more (but stopping now, promise): The OPP uses Eurocopter135s, acquired in 2011. List price, before police add-ons, is US$4.2 million per. Presumably 'cool stuff envy' would mean that the TPS could not possibly live with el-cheap-o RR66s and still hold their heads up.

EC135s are HUGE and used primarily for SAR/ambulance services, although I suppose a wealthy police force might have them just to show off. The R66 is a very capable bird for Toronto - but you won't be taking it to the alps with a stretcher and a few paramedics.
 
EC135s are HUGE and used primarily for SAR/ambulance services, although I suppose a wealthy police force might have them just to show off. The R66 is a very capable bird for Toronto - but you won't be taking it to the alps with a stretcher and a few paramedics.

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The things I've learned from this thread are amazing, and that's just the diversions. I've learned a lot from the on-topic part of the discussion as well. A lot of very well written and thoughtful posts on this situation in the last day or so.

Let's see how the FoFam Spin Machine works this afternoon.

No reports of Kathy attending the hospital?
 
The R66 is a very capable bird for Toronto...

On a serious note, do you think that the TPS ought to have one or more helicopters? Would they add that much value?

(I have heard people complain about potential noise, but I live right under the path of the Ornge air ambulances, less than 2 kms as the proverbial crow flies from the UHN landing site so they are quite low - and as large as they are, and as loud as they are when one pays attention to them, after a while one no longer really notices them much.)
 
On a serious note, do you think that the TPS ought to have one or more helicopters? Would they add that much value?

(I have heard people complain about potential noise, but I live right under the path of the Ornge air ambulances, less than 2 kms as the proverbial crow flies from the UHN landing site so they are quite low - and as large as they are, and as loud as they are when one pays attention to them, after a while one no longer really notices them much.)

I think they'd be way better for surveillance than using the Cessna. Remember, half of Etobicoke complained about the noise when Giroux was following Lisi and Rob around.
 
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