salsa
Senior Member
Do these 43 Down morons honestly believe that there's any hope in hell that their 43 approved councillors will get elected?
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I am incredibly bored, at home, on Saturday night so went to that 43 Down page and started looking at the profiles of the people who support it. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1512707135630047/ This is a page one of the supporters started. She's obviously a TCHC tenant who is very upset with TCHC, but yet she supports the Fords. She's had nothing but problems with TCHC, spoke to Rob about it, and because she spoke to him (not because he actually did anything) she supports Doug. Sigh! She alleges a lot of things on that page from a sexual assault, to a TCHC board member (I think? It's kind of hard to follow) getting a 15 year old pregnant. Anyhoo, if you're bored, check it out. It's a wild, grammatically incorrect read.
Quite a few of the members only have other members as their fb friends and post mostly pro-Ford things (with some racist, sexist, anti-Liberal posts in between).
Unfortunately there are lot of incidents in certain "blocks" and buildings, including drug, sex, and senior abuse crimes. TCHC was going down hill under Miller but has only gotten worse under Ford, especially with Gene Jones.
It's a joke to most residents the supposed help Ford promises, and I do not blame those who have been abused clinging to any kind of hope.
Rob Ford isn't representative of any larger group. He's a special story. I don't know that his ability to dodge all consequence (but cancer) is the result of his fair pink skin or his maleness so much as his shamelessness. I remember that after a debate a couple months ago organized by some black citizens group where carding was discussed I mentioned here my disappointment that neither Chow or Tory thought to highlight the difference in the way the police and other authorities respond to the Mayor's criminality versus the way they treat some black kid on the street. So I'm not unaware that some people have advantages others don't. I'm even aware that I have some as a white male. Privilege as it is used here is a social science theory; it's a framework. Does it describe observable dynamics? Sure. But it is some universal force that shapes everyone's fortune? Not really. I see it being tossed around freely lately. Maybe because unlike racism it requires no action from its perpetrators, just passive acceptance, so it can be applied so widely. Plus it has that irresistable argument hammer within it. Anyone who doubts any claims needs to "check their privilege".
Like Ford, Tory is a special situation. His place in the world is the result of tremendous advantages granted him as the son of a guy who was advisor and best buddies with a couple of Canada's richest men. He's 1%. As a white guy who has never really thrived in the world (mostly my own fault, but whatever) I don't know that I want him nodding in agreement and spewing platitudes on the supposed advantages that I'm said to share with him. Anyway, Tory's good fortune of birth seems to make him a bit tone-deaf sometimes. I'm not so sure he keeps up with what the activist university kids are discussing these days.
Do these 43 Down morons honestly believe that there's any hope in hell that their 43 approved councillors will get elected?
If the judge is actually *in* judge regalia in the crack-smoking video, that's amazing.
Cheers Jimmi T. It's my birthday. Spent it putting up signs in Ward 2. Now enjoying a very tasty bottle of downtown elite Chardonnay.
Have any of you come across the "43 Down" movement ( to "fordify" city hall). There's a FB page:
https://m.facebook.com/43down?__tn__=C
Why not go over to the Toronto Council Races pages
43 Down has been discussed as well as the antiMLTT slate, the Toronto Labour slate, AFUITBS' "Challengers to Watch" along with their endorsements, the newz4u.net slate and other saundries....
Doug introduced 4 councillors in Scarborough yesterday as part of the "43 Down" (although he is not officially endorsing anyone, apparently). So I wondered how much airtime this slate has been getting.
Agreed. Maybe this is Doug's team that he's referred to a couple of times. IIRC two of the four are up against an incumbent. so they don't have much of a chance. Without name recognition, it's almost impossible to win.People at UT like to accuse me of inside baseball (it is justified) however 43 Down is the most inside of baseball...I would suggest until yesterday the only people who took any notice of 43 were select members of IHTWOMRF, UT and those endorsed...
On the sign count a few Tory and a few Chow here on Roncesvalles and in Parkdale. A lot more Charmaine Emerson signs than Gord Perks. she was out canvassing on Landsdowne this morning too. I haven't seen Perks at all out and about at all except for one of the Roncesvalles street festivals this summer. He and another guy walked past a campaign kiosk and he turned to his pal and said "who the fuck is that guy?" I can't remember the guys name who was running.
Agreed. Let's not lose sight that the people Ford exploits for their own gains, can still be people.
For those unaware, this is Tory's full quote:
John Tory full statement: “White privilege? No, I don’t know that it does. I think there are people left behind, and what I think they need is a hand up from people of all skin colours and religions and backgrounds.â€
So he clearly does acknowledge the existence of a societal disadvantage towards some people. So... out of touch Tory or media spin? I think the latter.