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Winnipeg and Ottawa have similar budgets per road km as we do. But they both also clear sidewalks and Ottawa in 24hrs.

Anyone have insights on why? Seems like we’re getting fleeced.

Just guessing here, but I reckon there are differences in geography, weather, population, city expansion, municipal budgets, funding and snow removal bylaws.
 
This sounds a bit hopeful, but vague about timing.

 
Just guessing here, but I reckon there are differences in geography, weather, population, city expansion, municipal budgets, funding and snow removal bylaws.
But like… what are they? Cause population, weather, density and all of that are VERY similar. There won’t be many easier comparables to find.

Why is Ottawa spending less than us per km of road and having it ALL cleared in 48hrs, including sidewalks. Broad claims about any of the things you mentioned don’t make that make sense.
 
Just a clown show of a day out there in Whikwentowin and west central. Embarrassing. Loved helping to pick up an elderly man who had flipped his scooter in snow on the sidewalk in our densest urban neighborhood of 20k people.

Bike lanes are a joke. Private sidewalks a mess. Alleys horrible. It’s been A WEEK. Wtf.

Beyond frustrated. Happy New Years to everyone but the incompetent COE.

Only safe sidewalks for biking on? Marigold managed ones 🙂 so it’s confirmed… literally just a skill issue by COE cause marigold figured it out…

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But like… what are they? Cause population, weather, density and all of that are VERY similar. There won’t be many easier comparables to find.

Why is Ottawa spending less than us per km of road and having it ALL cleared in 48hrs, including sidewalks. Broad claims about any of the things you mentioned don’t make that make sense.
Ottawa likely gets Federal funding from the NCC to support snow removal in many areas, so that’s a big difference.

I’d love to see if Winnipeg is actually better at clearing snow - knowing what I do about their City Government in general, I’d be surprised if it’s actually much better than here.

For here, privately-maintained sidewalks are the vast majority in Edmonton and poor snow clearing is on the property owner. If they don’t do a good job, complain to them.
 
This certainly doesn't do well to push back against the perception that the city doesn't care about anybody not in a motor vehicle.

Here's a sidewalk under a 3-day priority schedule in my neighbourhood, plowed after it became impassable. Even worse now.
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Just a clown show of a day out there in Whikwentowin and west central. Embarrassing. Loved helping to pick up an elderly man who had flipped his scooter in snow on the sidewalk in our densest urban neighborhood of 20k people.

Bike lanes are a joke. Private sidewalks a mess. Alleys horrible. It’s been A WEEK. Wtf.

Beyond frustrated. Happy New Years to everyone but the incompetent COE.

Only safe sidewalks for biking on? Marigold managed ones 🙂 so it’s confirmed… literally just a skill issue by COE cause marigold figured it out…
Same with the Ledcor-maintained sidewalks near the Capital Line construction. Perfectly clear and maintained, whereas the COE ones nearby are a complete mess.
 
Does the city ever think that, with the warm temperatures coming next week, the city could clear the windrows and plow some of the snow before it melts and creates muck?
 
Does the city ever think that, with the warm temperatures coming next week, the city could clear the windrows and plow some of the snow before it melts and creates muck?
Our snow clearing strategies have never really felt like an attempt to be proactive. Always a few days (or weeks) behind.
 
Our snow clearing strategies have never really felt like an attempt to be proactive. Always a few days (or weeks) behind.
We had proactive measures that cleared ice and snow on top of increasing safety. People got mad at having to wash their cars more to get the potassium chloride off.
 
We had proactive measures that cleared ice and snow on top of increasing safety. People got mad at having to wash their cars more to get the potassium chloride off.
It was more than getting mad at having to wash cars more often.

The city still uses proactive measures that include the use calcium chloride as well as sand (often in combination) and salt. Calcium chloride is effective at much lower temperatures than salt.

In their use of potassium chloride, they couldn’t seem to get the applications right which in turn increased its corrosiveness to stainless steel and concrete and embedded rebar to the extent it was a structural concern for both public and private infrastructure. It also has a tendency to create more and larger potholes.
 

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