TTC12
Active Member
I apologize for getting your hopes up, and mine... They didn't answer it, it wasn't even asked... this show is wasted on stupid questions about why buses are so close together, and Drivers being mean..
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I apologize for getting your hopes up, and mine... They didn't answer it, it wasn't even asked... this show is wasted on stupid questions about why buses are so close together, and Drivers being mean..
Inkarnate
Active Member
How very typical. All the important things are left out and Giambrone and the others breathe sighs of relief.
smallspy
Senior Member
Because the other million plus people who take the system each day really wonder as they are waiting for the next 3 buses on their FS route to appear when the super-duper trains are coming.
I think I actually heard the sound of my eyes rolling.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
Agram
Active Member
The pain booth at Hillcrest is for buses and streetcars only, even if you bused the subway car there it would be hard to bring it inside as the transfer table is not equiped for subways. There is a paint booth at Greenwood Shop but that is for only minor repairs not for a full scale paint job.
Agram
Active Member
It's not necessary to 'paint' it. A sealant/protectant or stain could have been applied to ensure that it grime doesn't adhere to the surface
The acid wash used on exterior washes would eat away on the sealant so it would not work.
The acid wash used on exterior washes would eat away on the sealant so it would not work.
kEiThZ
Superstar
^ I am sure you are aware that there are sealants and protectants that are resistant to the acid washes used to clean vehicles. If the TTC seems to think this is rocket science, they should talk to engineers in the aerospace or defence sector.
If they think grime on a subway train is a problem, they need to chat with air force engineers who cope with combat helicopters being exposed to dust storms in Afghanistan.
If they think grime on a subway train is a problem, they need to chat with air force engineers who cope with combat helicopters being exposed to dust storms in Afghanistan.
Agram
Active Member
I dont think it is a problem and if the trains are washed on a regular basis like they are the grime does not build up. Trains are usually washed every 30 days so there is no reason to spend money on consultans and Engineering geeks when the present system works just fine. Painting them is out of the question for the sole reason we still get the trains grafittied and scratchttied just think how much time and money it will take to repair the damage done.
I still dont understand why they keep going onto the property and doing their art work when that train will and I repeat will never leave the yard.
I still dont understand why they keep going onto the property and doing their art work when that train will and I repeat will never leave the yard.
Platform 27
Active Member
I guess the taggers in question probably go home and tell themselves that:
1) They are the only person ever brave enough to hop the Wilson fence and mark up a car. The fact they've never seen a tagged subway car only proves this.
2) Their work must be circulating "out there" somewhere on the system, reminding everyone else of their complete daring badassery, and it's only just a string of bad luck that every train they've ever seen in a station hasn't had any on it.
I remember reading a cool magazine piece somewhere ages ago about how the graffiti community and mainline railways have come to something an unofficial truce on this issue. IIRC, a sort of "code" had emerged where "responsible" artists took it upon themselves to never paint over identifying numbers on railcars and took the lead in ensuring the community was aware of safety issues, in exchange for yard staff turning a somewhat blind eye.
Agram
Active Member
Its kind of hard to do it at Wilson Yard but they have hit Davisville Yard numerous times. The most popular time is long weekend as this yard is closed on weekends. Last year Special Constables had a sting operation on the yard and were doing servailance but sadly none came. One of the Constables was showing me pictures of the tags they collect and enter them into a special data base which they share with other law enforcement agencies. These people come from as far away as Dallas to do their work on our subway cars.
TTC12
Active Member
Dallas in the USA? If so wow....
What happens to the trains that are vandalized. I've seen some retired H sries cars tagged. But what happens if a T1 is painted or any rollingstock model ? Do they wash it or just leave it.... I heard that there were some trains at wilson which were covered in graffiti.. I wonder what models they were.
What happens to the trains that are vandalized. I've seen some retired H sries cars tagged. But what happens if a T1 is painted or any rollingstock model ? Do they wash it or just leave it.... I heard that there were some trains at wilson which were covered in graffiti.. I wonder what models they were.
Agram
Active Member
Yes Dallas as the one from USA
When a train is found in the yard it is taken inside and cleaned by hand, it usually takes 2 employees a good six hours to completely take it off.
When a train is found in the yard it is taken inside and cleaned by hand, it usually takes 2 employees a good six hours to completely take it off.
TTCboy13
Active Member
TTC12
Active Member
Remake of technical drawing on bombardier website for TR
Awesome, how'd you find it? I looked at their site and they still have the old one..
TTCboy13
Active Member
AnnetteMeetsJane
Active Member
While their tag won't be seen on a circulating car, I guess that there is "immortality" when their tag is in a database, along with all of the locations they managed to travel to and hit....