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building babel
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( and I sit here eating my "Bible Bar - contains the 7 foods of Deuteronomy 8.8" - as it says on the wrapper! ).
Mmmmm ... yummy!
Mmmmm ... yummy!
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prometheus the supremo
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JasonParis
Moderator
Astral wins coordinated street furniture contract!
As being reported on the Spacing Wire...
http://spacing.ca/wire/?p=1810
As being reported on the Spacing Wire...
http://spacing.ca/wire/?p=1810
gbelan
Active Member
though its could use some fine tuning the best proposal won.those new newspaper boxes will make a huge difference.
JasonParis
Moderator
Agreed, but I think we are left with a "best of a bad lot" feeling.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Indeed. The process sucked, ditto the 3 bidders. I am just counting my blessings that it wasn't Clear Channel.
AoD
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EnviroTO
Senior Member
It is the one I would have selected of the four designs. I don't think any of the designs are unique enough to create a Toronto brand. We will probably see these exact designs show up in other places.
yin_yang
Active Member
LOL
Astral just look the existing designs and made them a big more pleasing...they fit with the old bus shelters so the city probably picked Astral so they could save the cost of replacing relatively new shelters.
Astral just look the existing designs and made them a big more pleasing...they fit with the old bus shelters so the city probably picked Astral so they could save the cost of replacing relatively new shelters.
MetroMan
Senior Member
The city isn't saving money by not replacing the old shelters. Astral will pay the city for the privilege of installing the street furniture and make revenue by selling advertising (of which the city gets a portion).
Heck of a deal for the city of Toronto if you ask me!
Heck of a deal for the city of Toronto if you ask me!
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
From the Post:
Quebec company wins design contest
Street Furniture; Astral Media envisions sleek bus shelters and funky public toilets
Adir Glick, National Post, with files from Rob Roberts
Published: Tuesday, April 24, 2007
An independent design jury has recommended Astral Media Outdoor design and build Toronto's new street furniture.
Astral's proposal -- which envisions sleek, glass-walled bus shelters, funky public toilets, and bicycle mini-garages -- was chosen over competing proposals from Clear Channel and CBS Outdoors Canada.
One highlight of the winning scheme: Astral's curvy trash cans come with foot pedals.
"We've all tried to use the existing litter cans. For me, I wouldn't even want to touch them. Here, we've created a system where you can put in your garbage without making contact with the garbage," Jeremy Kramer of Kramer Design Associates, partners of Astral Media Outdoor, told the National Post this month.
The Quebec-based company would redesign all of Toronto's waste/recycling bins, benches, information kiosks, public washrooms and bicycle parking units. The proposed bus shelters are "off-grid" -- solar powered.
"We've also designed a system for personalization so different districts, BIAs and different cultural groups in the city can really put their mark on the furniture," Mr. Kramer said.
The recommendation will go to city council's executive committee on April 30, and to city council in May. The final designs are still subject to negotiation.
The new street furniture would make their way onto the city's streets in spring 2008.
A city staff report says the deal guarantees the city revenue of $429-million over the 20-year term of the agreement.
It also suggests using some of the revenue to create a "pedestrian realm organizational unit" to manage public space issues.
"In order to achieve the widespread benefits of beautiful, functional and safe pedestrian spaces ... including adequately managing the street furniture program, it will be essential to establish a dedicated organizational unit that would have strategic responsibility and accountablity for ... the pedestrian realm," the report says.
© National Post 2007
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Quebec company wins design contest
Street Furniture; Astral Media envisions sleek bus shelters and funky public toilets
Adir Glick, National Post, with files from Rob Roberts
Published: Tuesday, April 24, 2007
An independent design jury has recommended Astral Media Outdoor design and build Toronto's new street furniture.
Astral's proposal -- which envisions sleek, glass-walled bus shelters, funky public toilets, and bicycle mini-garages -- was chosen over competing proposals from Clear Channel and CBS Outdoors Canada.
One highlight of the winning scheme: Astral's curvy trash cans come with foot pedals.
"We've all tried to use the existing litter cans. For me, I wouldn't even want to touch them. Here, we've created a system where you can put in your garbage without making contact with the garbage," Jeremy Kramer of Kramer Design Associates, partners of Astral Media Outdoor, told the National Post this month.
The Quebec-based company would redesign all of Toronto's waste/recycling bins, benches, information kiosks, public washrooms and bicycle parking units. The proposed bus shelters are "off-grid" -- solar powered.
"We've also designed a system for personalization so different districts, BIAs and different cultural groups in the city can really put their mark on the furniture," Mr. Kramer said.
The recommendation will go to city council's executive committee on April 30, and to city council in May. The final designs are still subject to negotiation.
The new street furniture would make their way onto the city's streets in spring 2008.
A city staff report says the deal guarantees the city revenue of $429-million over the 20-year term of the agreement.
It also suggests using some of the revenue to create a "pedestrian realm organizational unit" to manage public space issues.
"In order to achieve the widespread benefits of beautiful, functional and safe pedestrian spaces ... including adequately managing the street furniture program, it will be essential to establish a dedicated organizational unit that would have strategic responsibility and accountablity for ... the pedestrian realm," the report says.
© National Post 2007
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yin_yang
Active Member
wow, that IS a good deal. if stuff like that gets things done, we should whore out the TTC too.
Tuscani01
Senior Member
Good to hear! Any idea if we will be seeing those public toilets in 2008 too or will those will be subject to more debate?
alklay
Senior Member
Astral should be held accountable for all the illegal signs and their rights under this agreement, including rights to money, should be affected. In other words, fine them for the illegal billboards and add the debt to the amount of money they have to pay to the city (although I am sure the contract will not allow such...but potentially its good leverage).
billy corgan
Active Member
How long until all these foot pedals are broken?
EnviroTO
Senior Member
I can't wait until the whole city looks like every public amenity was purchased at Walmart because it was such a great deal. If we become "Toronto: The Cheap Replica City" think of the savings! We could get public statues and fountains from the local home & garden centre.
