[Steve X]

UGH they aren't going to have a stupid bus running along Eglinton like they have the 97 for the subway are they?

The stop spacing is not that far! Its so not needed. Thats why we built a freaking LRT! To get rid of the bus!!

If you can't walk 500m thats what WheelTrans is for...

FFS

Two years ago when they did the survey, people demanded for one along the surface portion. Thus the 34 is extended from Science Centre to Kennedy. There doesn't seem to be any branches either. It's one service running for the entire line.

I'll expect the service to discontinue, as least in parts within a few years like how the 49B Bloor to Jane Stn was after 3 years. The 97 fills in 2km gaps between stations north of Eglinton, thus it's the only reason why it's still there.

 

[robmausser]

Two years ago when they did the survey, people demanded for one along the surface portion. Thus the 34 is extended from Science Centre to Kennedy. There doesn't seem to be any branches either. It's one service running for the entire line.

I'll expect the service to discontinue, as least in parts within a few years like how the 49B Bloor to Jane Stn was after 3 years. The 97 fills in 2km gaps between stations north of Eglinton, thus it's the only reason why it's still there.

Lets hope, and lets hope that if the bus is actually used, even a bit, they add that ridership to the LRT ridership estimates. I can see the headlines now complaining that the Crosstown didnt meet expected ridership, meanwhile this dumb bus is bleeding off riders.

 

[Mount Dennis Resident]

A bus along Eglinton Avenue (both East and West) maybe useful if they have only ONE elevator connecting one level to another. Would need the bus for accessibility.

If they have two elevators between each level, hopefully one will be still be running while the other elevator is out of service.

 

[Mount Dennis Resident]

Found this in 2024 Annual Service Plan (For Action)

73B Royal York
Branch Extension
City wards: Ward 5 – York South-Weston,
Time periods: All times

In the 2022 Annual Service Plan, a new 170 Emmett route was proposed as part of the Line 5 Network Plan. A revised proposal is now recommended that provides better connections. However, there are several operational constraints that will need to be addressed prior to implementation

It is recommended that the 73B Royal York branch be extended from its current end-of-line looping via La Rose Ave, Scarlett Rd and Eglinton Ave West to Mount Dennis Station to replace 170 Emmett route proposal detailed in the 2022 Annual Service Plan. The benefit of this change provides two-way service along Emmett Ave and La Rose Ave, provides a better end-of-line, and allows for additional connections to and from Line 2 and Line 5, and regional rail.

From Royal York Station, these buses would operate via north on Royal York Rd, east on La Rose Ave, south on Scarlett Rd, east on Eglinton Ave West, north then east on Emmett Ave, south on Jane St, east on Eglinton Ave West, south then west on Keelesdale Rd, north on Photography Dr to Mount Dennis Station, and then the reverse routing.

 

[Mount Dennis Resident]

901 Airport-Eglinton Express

New Express Route City wards: Ward 1 – Etobicoke North, Ward 5 – York South-Weston Time periods: All times

It is recommended that a new 901 Airport-Eglinton Express route be implemented to connect customers from Toronto Pearson International Airport to Mount Dennis Station on Line 5.

From Mount Dennis Station, these buses will operate via south on Photography Dr, east then north on Keelesdale Rd, west on Eglinton Ave West, north on Weston Rd, west on Lawrence Ave West, north on Scarlett Rd, west on Dixon Rd, west on Airport Rd, through Toronto Pearson International Airport looping via south on Jetliner Rd, east on Silver Dart Dr, south then east on the ramp to Terminals 1 and 3, making stops at Terminal 1 (Ground Level), and then at Terminal 3 (Arrivals Level), to Airport Rd, and then the reverse routing.

This route will provide a direct transit connection from Mount Dennis Station to Toronto Pearson International Airport with a single fare. Additionally, this will provide more express service along the Dixon Rd and Weston Rd corridors and new connections to regional transit services at Mount Dennis Station.

 

[reinventingthewheel]

If TTC is offering a redundant service, I wish ML wouldn’t be quite so worried about opening the LRT with the most minor defects.

 

[Amare]

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Well there's something, maybe the TTC does lurk these forums and looks at complaints/suggestions every once in a blue moon.

I've been riding at them for the trash Lawrence West bus service that runs along Dixon Rd and how it would make sense to have more frequent service that links a large employment corridor on Dixon over to the Eglinton Crosstown. This service will be huge win when it's implemented and will provide substantial benefits to residents and workers along this part of the city.

 

[Mount Dennis Resident]

Well there's something, maybe the TTC does lurk these forums and looks at complaints/suggestions every once in a blue moon.

I've been riding at them for the trash Lawrence West bus service that runs along Dixon Rd and how it would make sense to have more frequent service that links a large employment corridor on Dixon over to the Eglinton Crosstown. This service will be huge win when it's implemented and will provide substantial benefits to residents and workers along this part of the city.

No mention of a "BRT" or bus-only (except for those who are not buses, of course) lane on Dixon Road.

The left turn lane from southbound Scarlett Road to eastbound Lawrence Avenue West usually has a backlog of vehicles turning left. Worse in the rush hours. The buses turning left (eastbound) from southbound Scarlett Road to eastbound Lawrence Avenue West should get a transit only signal to be able to turn from the middle (normally straight ahead) lane on Scarlett Road to the right lane on Lawrence Avenue West.

 

[Steve X]

No mention of a "BRT" or bus-only (except for those who are not buses, of course) lane on Dixon Road.

The left turn lane from southbound Scarlett Road to eastbound Lawrence Avenue West usually has a backlog of vehicles turning left. Worse in the rush hours. The buses turning left (eastbound) from southbound Scarlett Road to eastbound Lawrence Avenue West should get a transit only signal to be able to turn from the middle (normally straight ahead) lane on Scarlett Road to the right lane on Lawrence Avenue West.
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They could convert the middle lane to a bus turning lane if they want. All the cars can stay on the right lane if they want to go straight. Weston/Lawrence is a major bottleneck. That one is hard to fix.



The 97 Yonge also on the 10 ten worst performer. We can see them delete parallel bus service soon if they perform like that.

 

[jcam]

They could convert the middle lane to a bus turning lane if they want. All the cars can stay on the right lane if they want to go straight. Weston/Lawrence is a major bottleneck. That one is hard to fix.



The 97 Yonge also on the 10 ten worst performer. We can see them delete parallel bus service soon if they perform like that.

This intersection could survive with only one lane of traffic heading south through the intersection, giving one lane to bus only. Not many people would be turning right anyway if they're coming down from Dixon...they'd do that earlier.

 

[Mount Dennis Resident]

They could convert the middle lane to a bus turning lane if they want. All the cars can stay on the right lane if they want to go straight. Weston/Lawrence is a major bottleneck. That one is hard to fix.



The 97 Yonge also on the 10 ten worst performer. We can see them delete parallel bus service soon if they perform like that.

If the 901 Airport-Eglinton Express turning left from Weston Road to Lawrence Avenue West could tell the left turn arrow to hold it a bit longer than currently until after the bus finishes it turn, that may help. Don't know the headway it'll have yet, but if initially every 15 or 10 minutes, the hold shouldn't upset the single-occupant automobile drivers that much.

 

[11th]

No mention of a "BRT" or bus-only (except for those who are not buses, of course) lane on Dixon Road.

The left turn lane from southbound Scarlett Road to eastbound Lawrence Avenue West usually has a backlog of vehicles turning left. Worse in the rush hours. The buses turning left (eastbound) from southbound Scarlett Road to eastbound Lawrence Avenue West should get a transit only signal to be able to turn from the middle (normally straight ahead) lane on Scarlett Road to the right lane on Lawrence Avenue West.
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Speaking as an occasional driver through this area, it's better to turn south at Royal York and then east onto Lawrence West.

 

[Steve X]

If the 901 Airport-Eglinton Express turning left from Weston Road to Lawrence Avenue West could tell the left turn arrow to hold it a bit longer than currently until after the bus finishes it turn, that may help. Don't know the headway it'll have yet, but if initially every 15 or 10 minutes, the hold shouldn't upset the single-occupant automobile drivers that much.

The problem is the single-occupant automobile making a left from Weston to Lawrence in front while a 89 loads on the right blocks the entire roadway as there isn't a dedicated left turn lane. It is also true on Lawrence eastbound holding up traffic for an entire light cycle. However, Lawrence eastbound to Weston northbound is prohibited 4-6pm and drivers can use Little Av to perform that turn.

There are many bottlenecks on Lawrence Avenue West so this might be an attracted service considering it is propose to run in all time periods. I feel they will reduce service on the 52A or even cut back the 952. Perhaps they can merge the 52G with the 952 and have a seperate express on Lawrence that would run in most periods?

 

[jmi22]

I'm curious as to everyone's opinion on the splitting up of Jane bus, with the exception of the express route. Is the idea that the majority of riders on the route were taking the bus to the nearest rapid transit station and thus the crosstown connection provides a faster connection? Once the Eg West extension opens do you think it will be returned as a single route that through runs through the Jane/Eg station?

 

[Mount Dennis Resident]

I'm curious as to everyone's opinion on the splitting up of Jane bus, with the exception of the express route. Is the idea that the majority of riders on the route were taking the bus to the nearest rapid transit station and thus the crosstown connection provides a faster connection? Once the Eg West extension opens do you think it will be returned as a single route that through runs through the Jane/Eg station?

Depends upon how they will implement RapidTO on Jane Street. See RapidTO Jane.