TheTigerMaster
Superstar
How often do you travel from Kennedy to Kipling?
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How often do you travel from Kennedy to Kipling?
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
I bet not even 1% are going end to end on this thing
Steve X
Senior Member
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If we have presto and everyone needs to tap in and out, we would have much better data.
probably much lower than 0.1%. 1% is 1 in 100 people. Considering that over 1500 people can ride a train in rush hour and only 100 of them board at Kipling, 1% meant 15 of the 100 people who boarded at Kipling would go to Kennedy.
If we have presto and everyone needs to tap in and out, we would have much better data.
Tuck
Active Member
I might ride it end to end.
Once.
On the day that it opens =D.
Other than that yeah you guys are right I suppose. Though even to get from the UofT Scarborough to the Yonge line would be a lot of stops (I think, I haven't actually counted), and I imagine that'd be more common.
Once.
On the day that it opens =D.
Other than that yeah you guys are right I suppose. Though even to get from the UofT Scarborough to the Yonge line would be a lot of stops (I think, I haven't actually counted), and I imagine that'd be more common.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
That makes no sense at all why would they want to do that? would Metrolinx even let them do it or the province? Plus I don't think the city or the TTC board is in a good position to be calling Metrolinx out on projects taking longer then they should.
Steve X
Senior Member
If none of the funds come from Queen's Park, then it's possible but at the same time probably impossible. There must be an agreement on ownership, operating Metrolinx property (Metrolinx-owned LRVs) on city own tracks, who would pay for the additional maintenance, who will buy additional LRVs, where will city-owned LRVs be stored and etc. Metrolinx would have to sign an amendment with the current consortium.
The LRVs are a huge issue here. TTC gave up 300 of the 400 car options to Metrolinx. Metrolinx might want those cars for other projects like Hamilton and Mississauga. KW is already benefiting from TTC's 204 streetcar contract. The 14 cars they are getting is an option from the 400 cars TTC got with the current streetcar contract. If Metrolinx allocates zero cars to crosstown extensions, TTC only has 40 cars left after the 60 additional cars they want to order. TTC would want more than 264 cars so there isn't any spare options for the TTC. The TTC might be stuck ordering cars at a much higher price for the extensions if Metrolinx doesn't fund them.
WislaHD
Superstar
5 minutes from Yonge to Laird. 17.5 minutes to Kennedy, 36 minutes to UT-SC.
That is one hour to get to UTSC from Yonge-Eglinton.
From Bloor-Yonge, it takes 27 minutes to reach Kennedy, and 36 minutes to UT-SC. So also approximately 1h10minutes.
People have some pretty gnarly commutes to school today from what I have seen. So I fully expect these commutes to be made in the future.
Voltz
Senior Member
That's just wrong, removing most of those stops would result in stop spacing of nearly a kilometre or more in most cases, just way to long and with little overall benefit.
And it's been mentioned before why moving the stop at UTSC is not necessary.
WislaHD
Superstar
It won't be reaching Sheppard anyway. The map posted last page was from the Scarborough-Malvern LRT EA, that had Sheppard as it's terminus.
Crosstown East will terminate at UTSC instead. (I am guessing the reallocated funds from the one-stop subway isn't enough to get the LRT to Sheppard or beyond to Malvern.)
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
TTC Board wants Crosstown East + West done by 2021. Metrolinx apparently can't get it done until something ridiculous like 2026. TTC Board consequently wants TTC to take over the project to expedite its progress. TTC CEO is actually quite reluctant to take over this project, but he admits that the TTC does have a ton of in house experience managing similar projects, and will ask his staff to put together a schedule for the extensions.
It also should be noted that Metrolinx doesnt have the greatest track record managing the Crosstown project. Metrolinx is already two years behind schedule, which is something that the TTC warned would happen back in 2012.
Whoever can get it done faster should be selected.
Steve X
Senior Member
It wasn't Metrolinx fault but Queen's Park's cash flow. They don't want to start the project as quick so their budget looks better.
If they really want the project to move faster, they could have ordered 6 TBMs, start all tunneling at the same time instead of a 2 year delay between the Black Creek and Bencliffe launch shafts. They would have dug the stations during tunneling. If the started in 2012, by end of 2014, the tunnels would be done and the stations are already dug out. Between 2013-2017 would be station construction phase. This whole line could open by 2018. The Confederation LRT in Ottawa is only taking 5 years. Then again, Bombardier would have delivered like 20-30 LRVs which is enough for a train every 15 minutes.
muller877
Senior Member
And we will get the speed and cost and like St Clair? TTC managed the community interest really well! No thank you.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
The Spadina-York subway was funded in 2006 and will open 2017. The Eglinton Crosstown was funded in 2009 and will open in 2021. So the Spadina-York extension which was a 6 station extension to an existing line with no major interchange stations or obstacles is only 1 year less that a completely brand new line with 13 underground stations including 2 subway interchange stations, 2 GO interchange stations, and one outside the underground section which is a combined subway and GO station. So the TTC and Metrolinx aren't significantly different at this point, except that Metrolinx seems to have a plan with buffer already built in, while the TTC is actually late to plan.
Tuck
Active Member
2026? Are they mad?!
Palma
Senior Member
from plant world to royal york its 350 metres (within walking distance). From Plant World to Scarlet Rd its more like 900 metres so that means with any new development at Plant World, people can walk to Royal York to hop on. A mid block stop is not needed