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Like I said - basically we would have had Eglinton from Mount Dennis to STC. No Finch. Ford did secure $700M from Harper for the SSE, which he likely would have also obtained for Sheppard and pressure would have mounted for Wynne to match. This $600M savings from Eg. Scar. LRT, plus another $1B if elevated, plus $700M from Harper, plus a likely $700M matching from Wynne would have been enough to get Sheppard completed.

Yes, no Finch. No Crosstown East. No Waterfront LRT. No anything.

You're assuming Ford's estimate was accurate, which wouldn't make much sense given how far off all of his estimates always were.

Another difference would have been that there would have been a lot more momentum towards building the DRL - which would have worked very well with a grade-separated Eglinton.

Really?

What about the people that were waiting for Finch? What about the people who expected Rapid Transit connections to Malvern and UTSC?

A transit strategy based entirely on identity politics is always going to lead to more people complaining they're not getting what they 'deserve'.
 
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Connection between the EMSF and the CP line is complete! From Tweet.

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Yes, no Finch. No Crosstown East. No Waterfront LRT. No anything.
Even now we have no Crosstown East and no Waterfront LRT - that part would have stayed the same.
Still think we basically traded a Grade-separated Eglinton-Scarborough LRT (Mount Denis to STC), a Sheppard Subway to STC, and a DRL to Eglinton, for
An on-street ECLRT from Leslie to Kennedy, a FWLRT, an SSE and and a DRL to Pape.
Maybe those on Finch are happy.
 
That being said, I guess the Crosstown is now technically connected to the transcontinental North American railway system? I know it is just a technicality, but a cool one at that.
It certainly has echoes from the past where city tram systems often were connected to mainline railways for onward delivery of freight cars. Often the street railway would have 'electric mules' (locos) to do this. Guelph had two yards for the purpose. One with GWR, and one with GTR.

Memories....(lol...from well before my time). Btw: This is the best theory for the TTC gauge being born: Toronto not wanting that kind of integration of 'street railways' with mainline ones.
 
Btw: This is the best theory for the TTC gauge being born: Toronto not wanting that kind of integration of 'street railways' with mainline ones.

Except that the theory falls apart when one considers that standard-gauge railway equipment can operate - carefully, admittedly - on TTC gauge track.

For instance, with the exception of the connection track to CN and CP, all of the track at the Bombardier Thunder Bay plant is built to TTC gauge. They have no problems running BiLevels on it.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
 
Except that the theory falls apart when one considers that standard-gauge railway equipment can operate - carefully, admittedly - on TTC gauge track.

For instance, with the exception of the connection track to CN and CP, all of the track at the Bombardier Thunder Bay plant is built to TTC gauge. They have no problems running BiLevels on it.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
Yup. There is only a 6cm difference between the two - meaning each wheel is 3cm further out from the centreline of the vehicle.
 
This is pretty cool. I wonder what measures were taken during the removal of the precast segments.
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