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KevinT said:
The only map update I can get for my car came out 6 months after I bought my car. Seven years ago... I'm sure many built-in GPS units are the same way. :-(
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You could always use your phone. Google Maps, Waze, and even the multitude of free offline GPS apps get updated frequently.

These issues are why Android Auto and Apple Carplay exist. Car companies will never be able to match smartphone companies and app developers for updates. Not to mention a coherent interface.
 
MisterF said:
Car companies will never be able to match smartphone companies and app developers for updates. Not to mention a coherent interface.
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Unless that car company is Tesla, but again, it has many bugs, but not as much as other car companies.
 
MisterF said:
You could always use your phone. Google Maps, Waze, and even the multitude of free offline GPS apps get updated frequently.

These issues are why Android Auto and Apple Carplay exist. Car companies will never be able to match smartphone companies and app developers for updates. Not to mention a coherent interface.
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Lol, most 7.5 year old cars don't have Android Auto or Apple Carplay either.

Full disclosure: Despite these limitations, I as a tourist driving to Toronto Waterfront events have never driven into (nor do I advocate or excuse driving into) the Queens Quay tunnel portal.
 
We all know that people complaining about poor drivers are really just looking for any excuse to subtly advocate for subways subways subway.
 
KevinT said:
Lol, most 7.5 year old cars don't have Android Auto or Apple Carplay either.

Full disclosure: Despite these limitations, I as a tourist driving to Toronto Waterfront events have never driven into (nor do I advocate or excuse driving into) the Queens Quay tunnel portal.
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Oh I know, that's why I mentioned using your phone. My car is actually exactly 7.5 years old and that's what I do.

That being said, GPS being in everyone's car or phone is no excuse for unintuitive road design.
 
robmausser said:
The gates at Queens Quay were successful, no one has driven into the tunnels since.
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Considering the gates haven't work for days or weeks. Seen them a number of times with the gates being open with one or both at the same time. Give it time and we will hear of a car in the tunnel again.

Anyone using a GPS tracker needs to understand they are correct for part of your trip, depending on where you are. Have used the GPS a few time just to see how it work that it had me going in another location or wrong direction compare to what was taking place at the time. In some cases, lost me all together. Good for people who don't know how to read a map or know where they are going in the first place. Very rare I get lost going to an location I never been to before using the map. Never use the GPS while away in May that I never been to before in my 2000 mile trip. Went one way and came back another way with no problems. Have no plans to use the GPS for a 2 week trip next week.

Try using the GPS walking in Montreal last year and gave up on it quickly as it had me going the wrong direction. Considering I never been to the area before and have looked at the map before getting to my start point, knew I was going the right way without the use of the GPS and ended up in the right area.
 
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drum118 said:
Considering the gates haven't work for days or weeks. Seen them a number of times with the gates being open with one or both at the same time. Give it time and we will hear of a car in the tunnel again.

Anyone using a GPS tracker needs to understand they are correct for part of your trip, depending on where you are. Have used the GPS a few time just to see how it work that it had me going in another location or wrong direction compare to what was taking place at the time. In some cases, lost me all together. Good for people who don't know how to read a map or know where they are going in the first place. Very rare I get lost going to an location I never been to before using the map. Never use the GPS while away in May that I never been to before in my 2000 mile trip. Went one way and came back another way with no problems. Have no plans to use the GPS for a 2 week trip next week.

Try using the GPS walking in Montreal last year and gave up on it quickly as it had me going the wrong direction. Considering I never been to the area before and have looked at the map before getting to my start point, knew I was going the right way without the use of the GPS and ended up in the right area.
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You are so right! Just did a short motor trip between Ottawa and Georgian Bay. It was the tale of two cars both using GPS, both following two completely different routes and in our car, two GPS's basically arguing with each other since they wanted to follow different routes. At a T intersection, the GPS told us to go straight through. The other vehicle was routed through Toronto at rush hour and was delayed 3.5 hours. They were very upset. We used a map on the way home and it was a much more relaxing event-free trip without being redirected through Toronto or into the back woods. Give me a map anytime. I want to know where I am going. I don't trust GPS (I was once sent to the service entrance at Disney in Orlando with no way of finding the public entrance without a map), and then there is the possibility that they are too out of date to give proper directions anyways.
 
lrt's friend said:
You are so right! Just did a short motor trip between Ottawa and Georgian Bay. It was the tale of two cars both using GPS, both following two completely different routes and in our car, two GPS's basically arguing with each other since they wanted to follow different routes. At a T intersection, the GPS told us to go straight through. The other vehicle was routed through Toronto at rush hour and was delayed 3.5 hours. They were very upset. We used a map on the way home and it was a much more relaxing event-free trip without being redirected through Toronto or into the back woods. Give me a map anytime. I want to know where I am going. I don't trust GPS (I was once sent to the service entrance at Disney in Orlando with no way of finding the public entrance without a map), and then there is the possibility that they are too out of date to give proper directions anyways.
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Let me guess, were your friends using an old school dedicated GPS unit with no data connectivity? The problem with those is that they can't take traffic congestion into account. Under ideal traffic conditions a trip from Ottawa to Collingwood is almost as fast going through the GTA as the more direct northern route. But throw one traffic jam in the mix and it changes the game completely. All the main smartphone based map apps use data to route drivers away from traffic jams. They also offer drivers multiple routes to choose from. Like for Ottawa to Collingwood, I'm getting three routes: one through the GTA, one through Peterborough, and one through Bancroft.

Avoiding traffic is what I often use GPS for within the GTA, even when I know where I'm going. The fastest route could be half a dozen different routes depending on traffic. While it's not perfect, the app can tell me the fastest way, tell me about accidents or unusual traffic, and offer alternatives. A paper map can't do that.
 
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