stevensontransit
Active Member
The Crosstown won't open until sometime in 2024, CEO confirms: https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/05/16/eglinton-crosstown-metrolinx-ttc-crosslinx/
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generalcanada
Senior Member
“We’ve had our concerns about the 2023 date, which is exactly why we’ve been pushing so hard for for credible schedule,” he says. “In our estime it’s a date in 2024, but when exactly that date is will depend on how much must still be fixed.”
I still think this is metrolinx saying now way you guys are close to finished complete your work, the same thing they said in November with that "credible plan" statement
turini2
Active Member
At this point, we need a sweepstake!
turini2
Active Member
I would not be surprised this is the case - given the TTC (for all their faults) do run a reliable, frequent transit system with staff that know what to look for...
That, and that as above "construction is 99% complete based on construction spend" so CTS do not want to spend any more money that is necessary!
turini2
Active Member
Welp
ARG1
Senior Member
And now we wait and see what other Ontario projects that were supposed to finish after Eglinton get finished before. Otrain Stage 2 South and East? HLRT? Finch West?
cplchanb
Senior Member
IMO its both.... there are prob legit critical deficiencies to correct but theres probably really minor but time consuming ones that TTC is being a dick by not letting go or having it deferred to after opening.
the main issue if thats the case is that the ttc overseers have no urgency to expedite since theyll still collect their paychecks while holding millions of potential riders and taxpayers hostage.
then again my business partner's friends who work at ML on this project apparently are still reviewing core design drawings from ttc NOW so its also ML's fault for working at the speed of govt.
cplchanb
Senior Member
well its not all bad... viva next was finished reasonably relatively on time and on budget and the davenport diamond project was done quite well. it all depends on the relationship with the contractor and management.
obviously crosslinx and ml have completely gone scorched earth with eachother but that doesnt necessarily mean it will be the same with others. FW LRT seems so far not bad.. not racing to the finish but certainly no
public cat fighting.
denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
If you think this isn't going to happen with the Ontario Line...
The next premier should tell MX that the Ontario Line is the last RT project, and their mandate going forward will be bringing all-day service to Milton, Kitchener, Stouffville and Barrie.
The next premier should tell MX that the Ontario Line is the last RT project, and their mandate going forward will be bringing all-day service to Milton, Kitchener, Stouffville and Barrie.
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crs1026
Superstar
This taxpayer is eager to see someone enforce a very high standard of construction and get the last few deficiencies corrected now while crews are still mobilised and the people who know what was buried where are still on site.
Anybody who has ever done a home reno know that once the final money is paid, the contractor loses interest in coming back and fixing the few little things that didn’t go perfectly.
If TTC has stepped up to the dick role - good on them.
- Paul
cplchanb
Senior Member
id bet that almost all of the minor deficiencies cannot be seen nor felt by the avg rider in any direct/indirect way unless you go searching for it. if the ttc is penny pinching on things like slightly misaligned tiles or grilles
i would put the blame on them. the line is already years late yet theyre still nitpicking on such immaterial things like that. its one thing if its just a minor delay but the fact that they cant really afford to waste more time is what is most galling.
theyve been testing the trains since last year so surely the line is "safe" for them to start doing some familiarisation at the very least. that whole safety issue that they tweeted is honestly bullshit for their laziness and unwillingness to cooperate.
cplchanb
Senior Member
to put some perspective, apparently theres a very high turnover at ML. consultants who are sitting on one side of the table during 1 meeting are switching sides the very next.
positions are being rotated as quickly as hockey game line changes. that in itself can explain why things are not getting done quickly or at all.. too many poaching and people not willing to finish the work in pursuit of other goals.
sacred
Active Member
This is such a sad attitude.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Further quotes and a little more context in this video interview with Phil. He mentioned he was promised three weeks ago a schedule by Thursday and a bit more more commerical litigation. Worth a watch just to get more nuance.
'Another unacceptable delay tactic:' Consortium behind Eglinton Crosstown construction plans to sue
The group of construction companies responsible for the Eglinton Crosstown LRT is planning to sue, Metrolinx says.
www.cp24.com
cplchanb
Senior Member
but its the right mentality. we are not building a museum. function goes before form especially when we are delayed like this.
the fact that we are striving to build an art gallery when the end users are school children is largely to blame for why its taking so long.
then again why cant they do concurrent activities? why cant ttc start doing their stuff at the same time? its all bureaucratic bullshit