christiesplits
Senior Member
Oh god no. This will not be good news.
Route chopped in half? Total cancellation? Replacement with BRT?
Route chopped in half? Total cancellation? Replacement with BRT?
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If the cancel it,(which I highly doubt) they won't get away with out heavy resistance from the citizens of Hamilton. It could be like the ION where half the route is LRT and the rest is BRT with LRT constructed in the future.Oh god no. This will not be good news.
Route chopped in half? Total cancellation? Replacement with BRT?
they are probably going to pull some creative accounting - just like the Liberals pulled some creative accounting to get the $1 billion number.Something does not add up. How does an on-street LRT cost billions of dollars? How is the cost estimate off "by billions".
they are probably going to pull some creative accounting - just like the Liberals pulled some creative accounting to get the $1 billion number.
The $1 billion number did not include procurement costs, maintenance, and land acquisition, and was stated in (IIRC) 2014 dollars, not current/escalated dollars.
My guess is that the PCs will award the contract as planned, but it will likely have a value closer to $3 billion as it includes 30 years of maintenance as well and is in escalated dollars.
For comparison, the Hurontario LRT was projected to cost $1.6 billion and the AFP contract awarded had a $4.6 billion value.
My view:
It ain't good news, but while it's definitely higher than $1B, they are trying to exaggerate the value -- throwing in the 30 year operating costs plus a lot of other frills not included in the original $1B -- as Cons excuse to try to blame the Liberals. The question is what politics theatrics occur to keep the LRT on track, even if it has to be scaled back to the Traffic Circle, and/or obtain Fed funding pitch-in.
My view:
It ain't good news, but while it's definitely higher than $1B, they are trying to exaggerate the value -- throwing in the 30 year operating costs plus a lot of other frills not included in the original $1B -- as Cons excuse to try to blame the Liberals. The question is what politics theatrics occur to keep the LRT on track, even if it has to be scaled back to the Traffic Circle, and/or obtain Fed funding pitch-in.
Totally different scenarios, the ridership and travel patterns on the different iON corridors are vastly different. Shortcutting the Hamilton LRT would be more akin to removing half of the grade-separated portion of the Crosstown.If the cancel it,(which I highly doubt) they won't get away with out heavy resistance from the citizens of Hamilton. It could be like the ION where half the route is LRT and the rest is BRT with LRT constructed in the future.
Short story prediction:mdrejhon, what do you expect the government will announce in two hours?