TOareaFan
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Route 1 in Caledon is reserved for when they buy their first bus.....no idea when that will be.
Route 1 in Caledon is reserved for when they buy their first bus.....no idea when that will be.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
I always forget that the day after Brampton screwed up their transit future, Metrolinx changed the project name.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Here's the release from the City of Brampton. I've highlighted notable elements. Also included is a call to prioritize RT on Queen.
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W. K. Lis
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Route 1 in Caledon is reserved for when they buy their first bus.....no idea when that will be.
Maybe the TTC will sell them a slightly used bus to Caledon?
Or a heavily used CLRV? But Milton may get one first though (the Halton County Radial Railway Museum is in Milton).
drum118
Superstar
Caledon doesn't want buses, they want LRT only.Route 1 in Caledon is reserved for when they buy their first bus.....no idea when that will be.
TOareaFan
Superstar
I have seen no evidence they have any desire to fund any public transit at all.
44 North
Senior Member
Is that a diesel LRV operated on mainline up to Bolton? Would certainly be promising and fills in a gap of the GO rail network.
drum118
Superstar
The city has included funding for peak service for Monday-Fri peak service for the LRT and $35 million in 2019-22 for construction.
They has also funding to cover the design the new Meadowvale Bus Garage.
Caledon has turn down P3 proposal for bus service as well from Brampton.
They has also funding to cover the design the new Meadowvale Bus Garage.
Caledon has turn down P3 proposal for bus service as well from Brampton.
mdrejhon
Senior Member
Hmmmm....
*looks at google maps and compares to Ottawa Trillium DLRT*
Hey, yep, a DLRT could work as a completely separate (separate than Hurontario) for Caledon-Brampton
Ottawa's mainline 5-station DLRT trial cost only $12 million for the entire DLRT system on a single track line with just one passing loop. Including the cost of 3 trainsets (the route only needed 2, with 1 spare).
So it's not impossible for Caledon to start a shoestring diesel-LRT to Brampton for $35M on that pre-existing mainline, if there's an agreement with the freight operator.
Basically a "GO-ultralite" system. Outdoor platforms (With a mini bus shelter in the middle) with tiny 30-meter or 60-meter streetcarlike trains running on the mainline. Some stations become passing loops. My hometown capital, Ottawa, Ontario, has that -- the Trillium Line! Riding Ottawa's DLRT is really cool, more comfortable than a bus ride if you get a seat, so don't knock DLRT if you have never tried DLRT. The "tram passing a barebones outdoor bus shelter by the tracks" diesel-LRT system. That probably could work okay-ish for Caledon if they want to spend money on it as they seem to actually be. Now, ridership is an open question. And park-n-rides-versus-transit is also an open question But at a mere $35M, this should be a serious look.
It's a very shoestring way to build an LRT and very low capacity due to 15-min interval due to passing tracks.
It definitely ain't no Hurontario, but it is adjacent to the Brampton GO station and 500 meters from Main Street, so technically, any upgrades to Brampton GO station could become a covered pedestrian walk between the deluxe Hurontario-Main LRT bookend and shoestring Caledon DLRT bookend on the opposite sides. It's a bit of a stretch of a walk for anybody wanting to transit from Caledon to Mississauga, but at $35M, hey -- who's complaining about the budget for an LRT?
For those unfamiliar, there's a freight mainline heading to Caledon, that passes right near Brampton GO, here's the highlighted tracks:
In 30 or 40 years, Hurontario LRT can be later interlined with this Caledon DLRT. An expensive upgrade but if there's reasonable densification-cluster policies north of Brampton, it's feasible.
*looks at google maps and compares to Ottawa Trillium DLRT*
Hey, yep, a DLRT could work as a completely separate (separate than Hurontario) for Caledon-Brampton
Ottawa's mainline 5-station DLRT trial cost only $12 million for the entire DLRT system on a single track line with just one passing loop. Including the cost of 3 trainsets (the route only needed 2, with 1 spare).
So it's not impossible for Caledon to start a shoestring diesel-LRT to Brampton for $35M on that pre-existing mainline, if there's an agreement with the freight operator.
Basically a "GO-ultralite" system. Outdoor platforms (With a mini bus shelter in the middle) with tiny 30-meter or 60-meter streetcarlike trains running on the mainline. Some stations become passing loops. My hometown capital, Ottawa, Ontario, has that -- the Trillium Line! Riding Ottawa's DLRT is really cool, more comfortable than a bus ride if you get a seat, so don't knock DLRT if you have never tried DLRT. The "tram passing a barebones outdoor bus shelter by the tracks" diesel-LRT system. That probably could work okay-ish for Caledon if they want to spend money on it as they seem to actually be. Now, ridership is an open question. And park-n-rides-versus-transit is also an open question But at a mere $35M, this should be a serious look.
It's a very shoestring way to build an LRT and very low capacity due to 15-min interval due to passing tracks.
It definitely ain't no Hurontario, but it is adjacent to the Brampton GO station and 500 meters from Main Street, so technically, any upgrades to Brampton GO station could become a covered pedestrian walk between the deluxe Hurontario-Main LRT bookend and shoestring Caledon DLRT bookend on the opposite sides. It's a bit of a stretch of a walk for anybody wanting to transit from Caledon to Mississauga, but at $35M, hey -- who's complaining about the budget for an LRT?
For those unfamiliar, there's a freight mainline heading to Caledon, that passes right near Brampton GO, here's the highlighted tracks:
In 30 or 40 years, Hurontario LRT can be later interlined with this Caledon DLRT. An expensive upgrade but if there's reasonable densification-cluster policies north of Brampton, it's feasible.
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thettctransitfanatic
Senior Member
Why would they built a LRT to Caledon ?
Neutrino
Senior Member
I think the poster is being facetious lol
robmausser
Senior Member
It reminds me more of the San Diego Sprinter than the O-Train, as its a fork of a mainline with DMU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprinter_(light_rail)
crs1026
Superstar
Now that the Greenbelt isn't an obstruction, there's plenty of room to build suburbs up that way.
- Paul
Bureaucromancer
Active Member
Even at that... A DMU through Caledon ends up in Orangeville.
There's worse ideas out there.
Though I'd think highway coaches running on a progressively implemented BRT implementation on Hurontario/Hwy 10 is probably the right approach to serving Orangeville, and really everything north of Brampton.
There's worse ideas out there.
Though I'd think highway coaches running on a progressively implemented BRT implementation on Hurontario/Hwy 10 is probably the right approach to serving Orangeville, and really everything north of Brampton.
TOareaFan
Superstar
and everything north of, say, Church in Brampton too.