[reinventingthewheel]

To put in a 4th track at PC, it will have to be on the south side making the current platform a centre one. I have no idea where or when and could be wrong seeing a plan with the platforms going the Hurontario bridge. If one look close at the north side of the tracks, there is enough room to put in the 4th track, but the bridge will be have to be widen and the push box is built for that track.

The LRT Station is not close to the tracks to have access to them as that is where the crossover tracks are.

I think there's a potential play for something like this when the 4th track comes:

The corridor can operate at high capacity with 3 tracks through Long Branch as it is a local station. I believe Port Credit will be a stop also for most express trains, so it can benefit greatly from the 4th track and platform.

 

[just east of the creek]

I think there's a potential play for something like this when the 4th track comes:
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The corridor can operate at high capacity with 3 tracks through Long Branch as it is a local station. I believe Port Credit will be a stop also for most express trains, so it can benefit greatly from the 4th track and platform.

South side has room eastbound through the old sidings for the PC yard. But major station rebuild and added bridge to the west. Interesting though, and some day I think it will be needed.

 

[drum118]

I think there's a potential play for something like this when the 4th track comes:
View attachment 607225
The corridor can operate at high capacity with 3 tracks through Long Branch as it is a local station. I believe Port Credit will be a stop also for most express trains, so it can benefit greatly from the 4th track and platform.

That was looked at during the 3rd track EA and not sure if the platform can be shifted to the east. There needs to be a tunnel at the east end to not only get to the platforms, but access from both sides especially the north parking lot as its a long walk today to get to the station and platform from the east end today.

South side has room eastbound through the old sidings for the PC yard. But major station rebuild and added bridge to the west. Interesting though, and some day I think it will be needed.

The whole station will have to be rebuilt especially the south side that will need a new retraining wall to support the 4th track. PC is supposed to see express service to/from it in the future with trains starting and ending there from what I can recall.

There needs to be another tunnel at the west end and long over due since the north side platform is further west than the south one. A bridge is over kill especially using the stairs since the bridge has to be a plus 35' to deal with the overhead system.

The bus terminal will be at or close to the street edge than it is today. The current kiss and ride will also disappear as haft of that lot will be used for the 4th track.

 

[drum118]

Oct 27
Took a trip for the north end to have a look at the corridor as well doing a walking trip from Derry to Steeles to have a look at the 407 overpass as well work in Brampton.

From my point of view, there been no changes in months or even work in Brampton and will let the Brampton folks speak to that.

A lot of track has been removed in various places, but not trackwork has taken place since June, let alone been pour for anchoring in place. A couple overhead support poles have been removed with new centre curds being rebuilt for the pole area.

Can't recall if I looked at the northbound lane from Topflight to Derry, but between Topflight and the crossover, sections of the road in many places has been saw cut for removal about 5m on either side of electric boxes in the trench between the road curb and the track. Looking at a few shots I took on my last trip, shows no saw cutting.

All platforms from Eglinton to Courtney Park have shelter posts on them.

The 407 overpass is still missing girders as they are rebuilding the centre pier with new bearing plats been added to it. The 3 new columns under the centre pier are in place to support the guideway. More grading and backfilling for the 407 westbound on ramp has seen more work on it.

Did not see any equipment in Brampton for any work that still has to be done. It looks like everyone left the site and haven't done any work months, considering there is fresh yellow markings in the curb lane in places for the gas line location. Noticed on a transit pole for southbound at Ray Lawson, it states the Stop was out of service from December 11 to the 20nd, but has no year on it. It could be a 2022 or 2023 notice. I believe that stop been there all this year, if not longer.

Decided to take a look at the New Mississauga Hospital site by getting off at the Queensway and this allow me to see some of the south end.

There was a sign going northbound saying a 403 ramp was to be close, but could not see when or what ramp. It could be for the westbound 403 to allow the placement of of the girders for the LRT bridge this coming week.

The northbound lanes closed for the 403 overpass are ready to open as well over Rathburn when they clean up the section north off the westbound off ramp. Once done, the rest of the guideway for the centre section from Kingsbridge to the ramp can be built.

Most of the curbs from Square One Intersection to the station has been poured and the missing section could be done by next weekend. Taking a guess they will then pour the base.

Central Pkwy station plastic has been removed and top coat stills needs to be pour for it.

They have dug up the south side for Fairview to build the new southbound cub and lane. Noticed they have slope the west retaining down compared to what I saw the last time and not sure if more will be done since the area is now excavated.

Duct banks going in the south-east corner at Dundas with bus stop now on the west side. They are paving the area by the RBC bank and looks like they are planning on more ductwork to King St as the sidewalk is now in the curb lane. This means there is only a single lane of traffic southbound from Dundas to King and except a few head on collision will take place by drivers making a left turn off Dundas where they think the northbound left turn lane is their lane as one almost took place as I went to get my bus..

Northbound lanes still closed from Dundas to the Queensway and nothing stopping for those lanes other than the Dundas corners.

They have open up the new southbound curb lane from the Queensway to either the North Service Rd or before as I couldn't see that far. Doing so, it has allow northbound traffic to be shifted to the centre lanes so they can start work on the northbound lane and curb. Once done, the the guideway can be built.

The restraining wall at John St is finished and strip, but still working on the one for the Beer Store as well for the substation area.

 

[sixrings]

We’re going to spend billions to upgrade the downtown portion of the Brampton lrt to underground. That makes sense. A lot more sense than building a go spur to square one or a subway. Dont question it…The business case says that it wins votes. Billions everywhere but MCC.

 

[JJTheJetPln]

Re: Work in Brampton - It's essentially stalled until the 407 roadwork is done. Utility relocates look to be done as the trench boxes are nowhere to be seen and all the piping that was in the area northbound on Hurontario after the 407 seems to be empty. It's possible that some hydro poles will need to be relocated, but that remains to be seen. With the given uncertainty of Mobilinx completing the project and Metrolinx asking for revisions and updates on the project because things aren't "to spec", it leaves many areas of the project in jeopardy.

 

[drum118]

Oct 27
Does anyone need 2 285/40 R22 tires, if so they are laying on the shoulder of the southbound lane north of 407 that look brand new.

 

[just east of the creek]

That was looked at during the 3rd track EA and not sure if the platform can be shifted to the east. There needs to be a tunnel at the east end to not only get to the platforms, but access from both sides especially the north parking lot as its a long walk today to get to the station and platform from the east end today.


The whole station will have to be rebuilt especially the south side that will need a new retraining wall to support the 4th track. PC is supposed to see express service to/from it in the future with trains starting and ending there from what I can recall.

There needs to be another tunnel at the west end and long over due since the north side platform is further west than the south one. A bridge is over kill especially using the stairs since the bridge has to be a plus 35' to deal with the overhead system.

The bus terminal will be at or close to the street edge than it is today. The current kiss and ride will also disappear as haft of that lot will be used for the 4th track.

Re ‘bridge to the west’, I was referencing a needed bridge for the fourth track over the river and continuing towards Clarkson. There would be major work required along that ROW almost to Clarkson Village, as the residential areas abut the ROW, with more than a few gullies. And additionally, perhaps given the increased traffic that adding a fourth track assumes, the level crossing at Lorne Park would be no more. Another tricky undertaking given the built up areas surrounding the ROW. Even with expropriation.

 

[drum118]

Re ‘bridge to the west’, I was referencing a needed bridge for the fourth track over the river and continuing towards Clarkson. There would be major work required along that ROW almost to Clarkson Village, as the residential areas abut the ROW, with more than a few gullies. And additionally, perhaps given the increased traffic that adding a fourth track assumes, the level crossing at Lorne Park would be no more. Another tricky undertaking given the built up areas surrounding the ROW. Even with expropriation.

Given the fact the City was opposed to the idea of putting another track bridge in front of the heritage bridge, it was one reason going to the north side as well away from the existing residential building next to the corridor west of Mississauga Rd. It will be interesting to see the city response to that 4th track bridge if it not built like the existing one and only seen by the canoes folks there after.

The big issues for the 4th track is the residential homes next to the ROW, grade separation of Lorne Park that will see heritage buildings relocated as well streets, the RR yard at Southdown Rd as well the drill track for it. Other than that, easy to put in that 4 track in Mississauga. Going into Oakville, you have the Oakville yard and the bridge over Sixteen Mile Creek along with Kerr St that needs to be grade separated.

There was and is a lot of issues for 4 tracks west of PC station along with a number of road closures and grade separations east of it. The up roar was very low at all the public meetings and it will be even louder with more NIMBY folks in the area as well beside the corridor.

 

[smallspy]

That was looked at during the 3rd track EA and not sure if the platform can be shifted to the east. There needs to be a tunnel at the east end to not only get to the platforms, but access from both sides especially the north parking lot as its a long walk today to get to the station and platform from the east end today.

The platforms can not be shifted further east without an additional bridge being built for the north track (or tracks). As it is, there is a 45mph PSO on the north track due to the curvature required for the track to get around the platform where it sits.

Dan

 

[JJTheJetPln]

Drove west on the 407 passing Hurontario during the day, and it seems that they're very focused on the middle pillar where the girders are going to rest on. The retaining walls look to be in their final form, and work for the new ramps is ongoing.

 

[drum118]

The platforms can not be shifted further east without an additional bridge being built for the north track (or tracks). As it is, there is a 45mph PSO on the north track due to the curvature required for the track to get around the platform where it sits.

Dan

I known the north platform can't be shifted unless another bridge is built as you noted and was only taking about the south side. The south platform was questionable and at best a few feet without widen the south side of the bridge that isn't really needed.

If a north bridge was required, the vacated land to the east as well a few houses would be needed and help the current curvature of the track, but not worth the cost.

 

[Tiger8886]

Wow. I just realized the Petro Canada at southwest corner of Burnhamthorpe and Hurontario is gone! Also forgot to mention that it appears that the power station might be under construction at the south east corner of Hurontario and South Service road. I'll try and get a picture of that on the weekend.

Just Wondering that the "Fairview" stop is not going to be built at Fairview road north?? Metrolinx confirmed that it would be built there.

 

[drum118]

Just Wondering that the "Fairview" stop is not going to be built at Fairview road north?? Metrolinx confirmed that it would be built there.

From what I know, no Fairview station as its too close to Central Pkwy. If they had built CP stop at Elm, then there would be one at Fairview. Based on what taking place these day, I could be wrong on Fairview being on the northside as its more level than the southside.

This is what you get for the 500m distance between stops or more in many cases that ML wants to use as well where east-west buses run. You will still have the 53 running to/from the GO station as well X bus on Hurontario to deal with the stops between the big gap for the platforms with longer headway compared today service with 103 cancel.

 

[Tiger8886]

From what I know, no Fairview station as its too close to Central Pkwy. If they had built CP stop at Elm, then there would be one at Fairview. Based on what taking place these day, I could be wrong on Fairview being on the northside as its more level than the southside.

This is what you get for the 500m distance between stops or more in many cases that ML wants to use as well where east-west buses run. You will still have the 53 running to/from the GO station as well X bus on Hurontario to deal with the stops between the big gap for the platforms with longer headway compared today service with 103 cancel.

Thanks for your answer. The new condo is being built at Northeast of Fairview road and Hwy 10, they told me that only 25 steps to the LRT Stop........if it built at CP, 400m distance away taking at least 5 mins walking....