innsertnamehere
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this seems aweful close to your vision, doesn't it?
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urbandreamer
recession proof
^Nope. Utterly mediocre bland "corporatecture" here. Awful. Try again.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I was meaning built form. The rendering is done by urban planners, so don't expect amazing architecture..
urbandreamer
recession proof
Built form included. Utter failure waiting to happen here.
Torontovibe
Senior Member
So show us your example, UD.
urbandreamer
recession proof
I shall...when I find the time. However, here are some examples from 'round the world that make a ton of sense here, adapted to local culture:
1) On most of the main drag & 3-6 side streets "deep" from Main Street, a variety & scale more similiar with Parkhill by Nice Architects.
^Ironically, it's a "Village" that is "Parkside." Wow, what a difference in priorities!
Real urban density is more than about height, square footage and setbacks. Real urban pedestrianized areas are more than sterile generic "cookie cutter" spaces. Both are best appreciated on foot. Designed for humans, not robots.
2) Locally, Toronto's Pan Am Village & Freedville/King West are perhaps the ideal "max height" & scale you should see on a main LRT strip, especially around major nodes. That sort of scale should not be too frequent--perhaps two areas the size of Pan-Am Village, with the majority a variety of 2-4-8 storey buildings is perfect along the LRT strip. 2 storeys!? Yes, 2s is way way way more urban if done right than 40s of Daniels "Chicago" repeated a thousand times over.
3) Details matter. Details needn't cost money. With 3D printer technology, gorgeous quirky details on facades could easily be achieved.
4) Where would you rather walk: Port Credit or the area here as currently proposed?
5) Retail does not have to be everywhere. It is better to create 4-6 long small blocks of intimate-scaled retail then a break than 20 blocks of corporate bland 3rd rate retail built into 3rd rate architecture.
6) The less "planned" an area is, the more likely to be successful.
7) Mississauga is a suburb. Get over your pretensions of urban city life. Cities aren't created over night. Let's find a happy medium--a modern version of Bloor West Village/West Toronto Junction ("streetcar suburb") vs wasting our time on height. Depth, not height. Spread the love, not the war.
1) On most of the main drag & 3-6 side streets "deep" from Main Street, a variety & scale more similiar with Parkhill by Nice Architects.
^Ironically, it's a "Village" that is "Parkside." Wow, what a difference in priorities!
Real urban density is more than about height, square footage and setbacks. Real urban pedestrianized areas are more than sterile generic "cookie cutter" spaces. Both are best appreciated on foot. Designed for humans, not robots.
2) Locally, Toronto's Pan Am Village & Freedville/King West are perhaps the ideal "max height" & scale you should see on a main LRT strip, especially around major nodes. That sort of scale should not be too frequent--perhaps two areas the size of Pan-Am Village, with the majority a variety of 2-4-8 storey buildings is perfect along the LRT strip. 2 storeys!? Yes, 2s is way way way more urban if done right than 40s of Daniels "Chicago" repeated a thousand times over.
3) Details matter. Details needn't cost money. With 3D printer technology, gorgeous quirky details on facades could easily be achieved.
4) Where would you rather walk: Port Credit or the area here as currently proposed?
5) Retail does not have to be everywhere. It is better to create 4-6 long small blocks of intimate-scaled retail then a break than 20 blocks of corporate bland 3rd rate retail built into 3rd rate architecture.
6) The less "planned" an area is, the more likely to be successful.
7) Mississauga is a suburb. Get over your pretensions of urban city life. Cities aren't created over night. Let's find a happy medium--a modern version of Bloor West Village/West Toronto Junction ("streetcar suburb") vs wasting our time on height. Depth, not height. Spread the love, not the war.
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Jasonzed
Senior Member
Stockholm is similar to what you are putting forward, love that city.
Jasonzed
Senior Member
urbandreamer
recession proof
Don't depress me. http://www.bustler.net/images/news2/nice_architects_parkhill_07.jpg
http://www.bustler.net/images/news2/nice_architects_parkhill_07.jpg
Jasonzed
Senior Member
Here's something that will put you in the hospital
[video=youtube_share;LhwV-abnx30]http://youtu.be/LhwV-abnx30[/video]
[video=youtube_share;LhwV-abnx30]http://youtu.be/LhwV-abnx30[/video]
drum118
Superstar
March 10
In the first photo, we see what there now for the whole site as well the surrounding area. We can see Pinnacle Grand Park peaking in the skyline to the right. Give it 20+ year, it will look a whole lot different.
In the first photo, we see what there now for the whole site as well the surrounding area. We can see Pinnacle Grand Park peaking in the skyline to the right. Give it 20+ year, it will look a whole lot different.
Jasonzed
Senior Member
Jasonzed
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drum118
Superstar
March 30
taal
Senior Member
I said it before and I'll say it again; All glass condos aren't going anywhere for a while, like it or not.
But I hope parkside takes some lessons from cityplace ... cityplace (granted is all glass) the building vary quite a lot ... all the renderings I've seen so far show parkside village as a much much more montone development ... not good ...
On the other hand, the base of these buildings blow most of the city place developments out of the water !
But I hope parkside takes some lessons from cityplace ... cityplace (granted is all glass) the building vary quite a lot ... all the renderings I've seen so far show parkside village as a much much more montone development ... not good ...
On the other hand, the base of these buildings blow most of the city place developments out of the water !